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So I look at the history and it shows that I removed junipers comment. I most certainly did not. I was no were near that section and have no idea why it got eaten. Good catch on your part though.--Plater (t|c) 06:02, 30 January 2008 (CST)


just thought i'd let you know. you just told off User talk:Whiskeyzours‎ for "editing another users talk page" but the edits in question wasnt on a users talk page. it was Talk:Pygmy blowgunner‎. just fyi.--Blood panther 18:10, 17 August 2007 (CDT)

  • Yeah that confused me. Does he mean that I should never edit another user's entry on a discussion page? --Whiskeyzours 18:22, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
    • What EvilKolBot means is that you should never edit comments on a discussion page by another user as a manage of courtesy. In the case of the ones you removed another user may have the same question in the future and find his or her answer by reading the ramblings of someone else.--SomeStranger (t|c) 18:51, 17 August 2007 (CDT)
      • I understand now. Thanks for your help everyone. I'm very new to the Wiki and everyone has been very helpful. It will not happen again. --Whiskeyzours 20:02, 17 August 2007 (CDT)

TinyPlastic Reference

  • I noticed that you were trying to add a reference to a tiny plastic page before. I fixed up the template for those pages so you should be able to add it properly now. --SomeStranger (Talk | Contribs) 08:26, 13 April 2006 (CDT)
    • Theoretically there could be, but I would have to advise against it as it tends to just cause complications. There can't be THAT many references to it that it needs its own template. Just copy and paste it from articles that already have it. --SomeStranger (Talk | Contribs) 14:06, 13 April 2006 (CDT)

It's good that you removed the uncyclopedia reference, since that's basically the same as referencing a forum post. I did change the "reference" from stating that Jick was referencing an uncyclopedia article to joking about Andy Warhol inventing pop rocks and the article not being funny. Sorry if you thought that was serious, it was just a compromise with myself between removing it and leaving it: criticizing it. Lotusduck 08:39, 15 April 2006 (CDT)

{w|1} Template

  • I am not sure if this is standard. I would assume that it would not be considering it is an extra thing to remember for something that is already very simple to do. I am waiting on a response from one of the admin of the wiki...--SomeStranger (Talk | Contribs) 17:37, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

james chen0

Sorry about the post. I realized I did have ode to booze, and sorry if I am posting in the wrong place.

Hey, thanks for notifying me about the Advanced Saucecrafting mistake. The wikicode was being strange and removed the word for some reason. It's fixed now though. Thanks again. --Rai 07:17, 11 May 2006 (CDT)

Established Standards: Adventure Pages

Reverting without discussion

Hi, I readded the reference on the diamond studded cane. I don't want you to misinterpret the action, but I clearly identify that line with the movie and want to give others the chance to weigh in. I do think it's more fruitful to move content to the discussion page than to revert (which makes it impossible for others to weigh in).--DirkDiggler 02:45, 13 May 2006 (CDT)

I reverted your revert on the Candycaine reference. Douglas Adams's book is generally preferable to Douglas Adams' book. I can see where you might disagree, however, as many people have their own opinions on what looks best. Unfortunately for you, current punctuation guides state that with modern names ending in "s" (including biblical names, and any foreign name with an unpronounced final "s"), the "s" is required after the apostrophe. Example: Keat's poems. Douglas Adams's book. Although I agree that you should be free to punctuate your own writing in your personal style, people tend to use this website as a reference and I think it might be preferable to use a standard style. --LucySpace 18:28, 4 June 2006 (CDT)

  • If it was a needless edit on something that is just personal preference, then why did you bother to change it back? I am using Fowler's Modern English Usage and the Chicago Manual of Style. It might have been possible that Adams preferred one way over another; to check, I consulted another resource. --LucySpace 13:42, 5 June 2006 (CDT)
    • I agree with Lucyspace that "s's" is preferred according to the current major publishing standards. (I use Strunk & White and the Chicago Manual of Style.) I also feel that since KoL itself prefers the "s's" (see "Boris's Key"), the wiki should also prefer it. --Hellion 15:50, 5 June 2006 (CDT)
      • In the future it is preferable to have conversations across ONE talk page. If the conversation was started here then all responses, etc.. should occur here. If you feel the need to alert the other user that you have responeded then copy the entire conversation over to their page each time, or leave them a minor note saying that you have responded. It keeps things cleaner and easier to read.--SomeStranger (T | C) 17:01, 5 June 2006 (CDT)

Why don't you make like a tree..

The next part of the phrase is "and branch!" geez. --LucySpace (Talk|Cntrb) 06:31, 20 June 2006 (CDT)

  • Well, okay, now that I'm rethinking it.. I think I'm wrong. It should be, "Why don't you make like a tree.. and get outta here!" --LucySpace (Talk|Cntrb) 06:34, 20 June 2006 (CDT)
  • ah, humour. you may mock, but i had to have it explained to me. oh well. --Evilkolbot 06:36, 20 June 2006 (CDT)
    • Haha, I'm not mocking too much. I kind of think that came from Back to the Future. I'm in a goofy mood. --LucySpace (Talk|Cntrb) 06:45, 20 June 2006 (CDT)
      • you're absolutely right. i think it's a subversion of the original quote, though. try googling "make like a tree and" and you'll see. --Evilkolbot 07:01, 20 June 2006 (CDT)

DD Reference

I hope this is the right place to post, rather than in my own talk page.
I simply thought that it would be useful if someone wanted to quickly look up something about the daily dungeon. Simple as that; I thought it could be a common search. If I am wrong, feel free to tell me, and I'll refrain from adding such redirects in future.

--Sors 12:30, 10 July 2006 (CDT)

  • conversations should occur on one person's talk page (see the post immediately above "So why don't you maske like a tree" above), so, yes, this is the right place to post. the problem comes with knowing when someone else's talk page has changed, but that's no sweat if you either keep on top of your my contributions or mark it as watched.
i did a personality test at work and apparently i'm a ruler and my verb is tell. forgive me if i overnanomod.
as far as the DD redirect goes, i agree that it's probably a good idea for searching. my question was to do with whether you'd discused the idea with the admins (Proposed_Standards is a good place to start) and/or intended to create a redirect for all the common abbreviations. there has to be some consistency here, no? --Evilkolbot 15:54, 10 July 2006 (CDT)

I had not discussed it at Proposed Standards, but I will do so now. I did have a vague, unformed plan to set up a load of redirects for the sort of things that may be searched for. I shall nip over and propose my idea now. --Sors 15:58, 10 July 2006 (CDT)

Song Titles

  • re: teqiwila slammer. you were right first time. standards say that if something is product, ie the title of a film, a song or a novel, it gets emphasised and not "quoted."

Ah, whoops. I knew that for films and novels, but had not realized it also went for songs. Fixed, and fixed a similar mistake I'd made on another page. Ta! --ShinyHappyGoth 12:52, 17 July 2006 (CDT)

Diamond-studded cane

Only after I resubmitted the reference, I noticed there was a discussion tab. Sorry. I learn as I go. ~Varn

Thanks for the note

I'll do more research before adding things in the future. --Glikker 12:10, 27 July 2006 (CDT)


Sorry about the redirects for capitalization. Last discussion I'd seen in discussion seemed to encourage them (April 2006). I wasn't aware a new standard had been posted against them in July 2006. Has the no-redirect for capitalization been accepted as a formal standard then? --Tinwhistler 09:25, 2 August 2006 (CDT)

  • as discussed on the standards page, the wiki now does its best to guess the capitalization, which renders such redirects unnecessary. it's still only on the proposed standards, and jin hasn't weighed in yet, so i guess it's still up for debate. IMNSHO the redirects, since they're not needed, are just clutter. but what do i know? --Evilkolbot 12:12, 2 August 2006 (CDT)
  • Well, as for "not needed", I have not been adding them willy-nilly, but only have been adding redirects where the wiki fails to guess the correct capitlization. I have been doing this on entries that I try to go to in the course of playing the game, so I know that the wiki is failing to guess the capitalization on them in a real-world scenario. So, therefore, those redirects are needed if the goal is to have the wiki go to the proper entry regardless of whether or not the capitalization is exact. But what do I know? --Tinwhistler 15:40, 5 August 2006 (CDT)
  • more than me, obviously. i'm still against capitalisation redirects (CRs) on priciple, and if you're relying on guessing the url from the name of the item you're doing it wrong. pages should have the link and not the redirect on them, that's the rule. i'll still be telling people to read the standards if they add a CR, and not just because i like telling people stuff. perhaps jinya could be persuaded to give us some guidance. --Evilkolbot 16:50, 5 August 2006 (CDT)
  • I'm not "guessing the URL" to make links within the wiki. I was making CRs for instances where I cut and pasted the name of an item or monster from the game into the wiki search bar, and the wiki failed to find the item--solely because of the capitalization issue. The capitilaztion used in the game differed from that used in the wiki, and was causing searches to fail. The CRs were to make the search functionality work as one would expect to use it in a real-world scenario, rather than an "entry not found" error. As of today's tests, however, the search bar seems to be working as one would expect, so I likely will not make any CRs in the future and the CR issue has become moot from my point of view. --Tinwhistler 08:56, 15 August 2006 (CDT)

Google-style misspelling redirects (are you a nincompoop?)

  • I did not know redirects were such a hotly debated topic. Do you believe that users can add redirects to make the Kol Wiki "useful?" Is there a way to add "Google Style" spelling help without adding a redirect page? Suppose you type in "Curtins" trying to get to the "Curtains" page, for example.--Sp8z 09:20, 15 May 2008 (CDT)
    • Then you need to learn to spell "Curtains". --TechSmurf 10:00, 15 May 2008 (CDT)
      • Curtins <-> Curtains is an example of a larger issue that I am hoping to discuss to achieve resolution. Obviously for every example of "Google-Style" spell checking, a non-helpful response of "learn how to spell x" could be forwarded without contributing to the discussion. If however, you are suggesting that people who misspell words should be punished for ignorance, then that is a valid suggestion. I suggest that the wiki should not punish people who misspell words, but help them get where they are trying to go. Is there a way to add "Google Style" spelling help without adding a redirect page?--Sp8z 10:52, 15 May 2008 (CDT)
        • I'd have to see if there's anything in the MediaWiki documentation about changing search algorithms. As it stands the inherent MediaWiki search really blows. You could get around it by prefixing a google search with site:: though.--Toffile 12:19, 15 May 2008 (CDT)
        • Though to note, I'm not an admin or have dev access, so I'm just investigating the possibility. I couldn't make the change if it's possible.--Toffile 12:21, 15 May 2008 (CDT)
          • Taking a look, there's no inherent option for a google-type search in the MediaWiki configuration settings. There are 3rd party extensions, but that would have to run through ColdFront to be accomplished.--Toffile 16:07, 15 May 2008 (CDT)
          • Bummer! Thanks for checking on that.--Sp8z 13:42, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
  • i am personally of the opinion that people who genuinely believe that "curtins" is a valid attempt at spelling shouldn't be allowed near a computer. the fact that google lets them be as lazy and ignorant as they like, and that spell checkers will tidy up after them transparently just makes me sad. and don't get me started in the death of "than" and "every day".
  • however, wiki policy is a mutable thing, and not subject to the whims of one person. which is to be applauded.
    • I agree.--Sp8z 13:42, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
  • the current guidelines on redirects please me greatly. they are logical and internally consistent. i hope they do not change.
  • if they were to change, though, to allow your google-style "are you a nincompoop?" searching, exactly how many misspellings would you allow. or rather, how many would you personally be prepared to enter? five or six per common word? ten? fifteen? how many thousand redirects could you type before your fingers broke?
    • I am not suggesting that every available misspelling should be realized, obviously that is a non-solvable problem, especially when a word could be misspelled such that more than one page could be the desired target. Also, consider that many words are spelled correctly. Therefore, creating all possible misspellings (pretending you could) would be a waste. Hence the "are you a nincompoop" search option request.--Sp8z 13:42, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
  • as an exercise, perhaps you, sp8z, could prepare a list of each word used in wiki page titles. then you could prepare a second list as comprehensively as you can of those words misspelled as many different ways as you can think of. then you should prepare a matrix product giving all of the possible necessary redirects.
    • I choose not to run.--Sp8z 13:42, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
  • i would say that only with that list a judgement could be made as to whether this function should be added to the wiki.
    • I believe a solution could be arrived at concerning redirects and spelling without such a list.--Sp8z 13:42, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
  • there would, should the decision be made to do so, also be the question as to who would maintain this list, and who would be responsible for adding new redirects as new pages are added. you, sp8z, would get my vote. definitely.
  • </rant> --Evilkolbot 13:33, 15 May 2008 (CDT)
    • Well I may not know much about wiki editing and such, but my understanding is that everyone who uses the wiki is responsible for it's maintenance and as such, everyone would be responsible for adding and maintaining redirects. Wait a minute, that's what I was doing! Why are we having this discussion again? Oh yeah, the belief that redirects should not support people who don't know how to spell.--Sp8z 13:42, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
  • It turns out that Wikipedia, another user edited source of information, has similar issues with redirects. Wikipedia supports redirects for common misspellings In the discussion of the topic it appears that there is a way to know the number of hits a misspelled word receives and " would be a real lapse of judgement not to include redirects to those queries...". Also, there is a guideline of when to and when not to delete redirects, And in "Reasons for not deleting" it says in part, "...Someone finds them useful." With all of that to consider, I believe redirects that support misspelled words should be allowed, and should be added by users as they occur. Redirects for misspellings could also be added by going through the hit counts for pages that don't exist and adding redirects for hit counts above a certain number. As of now I don't have access to that information, but if I was provided access I am willing to create the redirect pages for commonly misspelled high (relative) hit count queries.--Sp8z 13:42, 19 May 2008 (CDT)
  • (from User Talk:Sp8z) First you say there are several guidelines about redirects, then you say there are only comments??? Also, with the statement "perhaps someone with wider wiki experience could clarify how off-bass i am" you imply that only someone with more experience than you is qualified to make decisions about redirects. I believe that it will be difficult to find that person as the wiki, as a way for people to share information, has not been around very long. If you are suggesting with that statement that I, Sp8z, do not have enough wiki experience to make apposite contributions to policy concerning redirects, than I see that as condescending. But you probably didn't mean that.--Sp8z 12:33, 19 May 2008 (CDT)

Some answers

  • before i start, just one small request. could you keep all your edits together in one place on one page? interleaving them through the text makes it difficult to answer them, and having two separate conversations on each other's talk is just plain overcomplicated.
  • my rant was no more that pointing out to you that adding redirects for misspellings was no trivial task. embarking on such a thing should not be undertaken lightly. in order to stop your work being at best ignored and at worst removed immediately you're probably better off getting other people involved. although, since the wiki has other, more pressing projects e.g. Discussion#Monsters in Drop Locations you chances of this are, i would imagine, not great.
  • as far as current guidelines go, i can (and could) only tell you the ones that i apply. i didn't mean to seem condescending. since nothing's concrete the rules that say, Quietust or JRSiebz apply could be very different, and my request for confirmation was to them.
  • thanks for looking up the guidelines at wikipedia, that was what i meant by "wider wiki experience". the real thing's rules are formulated in the face of vastly higher traffic than ours. we don't slavishly follow their rules, but we'd be foolish to ignore their experience. reviewing the search logs for commonly misspelled words seems an excellent idea. i'm guessing a new section at Proposed Standards proposing just that would be your next step. --Evilkolbot 14:37, 19 May 2008 (CDT)

Re: Sword Behind...

Ah, I hadn't thought to look at the discussion that had been going on about the research on the prepositions, sorry. It had just sounded awkward as it is. --Pandaba 12:02, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

  • you're absolutely right. if you look at the history i did the same thing myself. but, turns out it's "on" after all. --Evilkolbot 12:39, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

I am sure!!!

I know about that but i didnt even have got my first ten leaf clover at that time!!!! I am totaly sure about it!!!

  • it's been explained to you why we're sceptical about this. this is a very old adventure and you are the first person to find a dms there in millions of adventures. it may have changed, and if it has there will be a lot of people on the forums reporting it. you're not selling you're version of events, either. you need to say it happened just now, and have a screenshot. always remember that this is a collaborative process. it's not a question of how sure you are but everyone else. If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then don't submit it here.
and, if you want people to believe you:
  1. sign your posts
  2. don't use all caps
  3. stop using exclamation marks
--Evilkolbot 04:37, 20 August 2006 (CDT)

ok so if i get it again i shall print screen! how does i sign posts? what are caps??? what are exclamation marks?

  2. these are exclamation marks!!!!
  3. sign your posts by adding two hyphens and four tildes like this --~~~~ to the end
--Evilkolbot 05:11, 20 August 2006 (CDT)

Fickle Finger of F8 Discussion

I think your comment about people being fortunate enough to be not be born into an English-speaking culture in the [Fickle Finger of F8 discussion page] was pretty discriminative, I think this is the right place to say something like this, but I'm not completely sure. --Damuna 21:26, 15 September 2006 (CDT) 03:18, 16 September 2006 (GMT+1)

  • Damuna, while Evilkolbot 's posts can sometimes... lack nuance, the post in question seems, at least to me, to be fairly innocuous. As the post wasn't directed to you, and further, is more than three months old, let's just let sleeping dogs lie, shall we? --Gymnosophist 21:47, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
  • "lack nuance" hmm. I apologise if I seem rude, that's not my intention. --Evilkolbot 03:41, 16 September 2006 (CDT)

deleting without comment (disco bandit)

  • Sorry for the restoring, since it was not allowed.Anyway i'm not the original author of the reference, nor i do endorse what he/she wrote. I just asked if anyone deleting something could give a little explanation in the 'summary' field.

In this case, something along the lines of 'no forward reference allowed' would have been quick to write and would have clarified things up.--Worthstream 08:34, 18 December 2006 (CST)

Re: Capitalisation Redirects

  • Sorry, hadn't read that. Feel free to delete. --Ion42 06:52, 20 January 2007 (CST)
  • Ah, didn't know about that. Thanks. --MagiNinjA (#1036193) (t|c) 13:04, 4 March 2007 (CST)

Trophy Note

Looks like your note on trophy still wasn't enough. Oh well, it was still a good idea. --TheDotGamer 09:25, 6 March 2007 (CST)

An offer...

I should've offered this to you months ago, but kept waiting for... who knows what. Would you like to become an official wiki admin? You've been around for a long while and consistently helpful. I'd like to see you become official. Let me know. --jin 20:24, 14 May 2007 (CDT)

  • wow, thank you. such an honour. i'd be delighted to accept. when do i start? --Evilkolbot 06:26, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

Request for arbitration

I've just had a run-in with deli guy, a user who claims I am overly arrogant and not suited to being an admin. Please read the comment he left on my talk page and let me know what you think. For a little bit of background, he uploaded an image, comparing Gnirf, the World's Sneakiest Gnome with the Tan-U-Lots Tanning Beds, consisting of a very large table and taking up over a megabyte of space, and wanted to know how to place it on the wiki page for Gnirf. I certainly hope my position as admin hasn't gone to my head, so I'd prefer some additional opinions in this matter. --Quietust (t|c) 15:24, 29 June 2007 (CDT)

  • i'll look at it, certainly, and be as unbiased as possible. i'll put my findings here, for simplicity. --Evilkolbot 03:13, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
    • hmm, in trying to point out your jackassery he has rather achieved the reverse. you pointed out what he was doing wrong, politely, and suggested a way that he could correct his error. you didn' do anything out of the ordinary, his response is way too touchy. he didn't really ask for help, just said "i can't do this" then went ballistic when you pointed out he probably shouldn't do it anyway. rest easy, it's not you that's the jackass.
    • i'm slightly troubled by the lack of evidence he gives. it would seem that he changed the asparagus stats based on one day's results: is the table as sloppily researched? --Evilkolbot 03:43, 30 June 2007 (CDT)

Really Quite Poisoned

Both. Stat reduced by 70%, then reduced by an additional 9.--Ryo Sangnoir 10:13, 5 July 2007 (CDT)

Needmoney90's edits

So, after removing the recipe from tail o' nine cats, needmoney90 proceded to try and rip people off on them in /trade. Does that warrent a banning on the wiki for malicious edits? --TechSmurf 13:27, 9 July 2007 (CDT)

  • i guess it does. --Evilkolbot 13:32, 9 July 2007 (CDT)
    • Alrighty. I wasn't entirely sure how to handle that one. --TechSmurf 13:37, 9 July 2007 (CDT)


Ok, so that explains it. Cool. I didn't know it was talk, I thought it was just a 'hidden message' for Wiki editors or HTML-savvy people to find, and stuff. --MrAndersonMan 09:04, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

Euler Line Reference in Sept. IoTM

Noting that I teach the Euler Line with the concept of three specific points lining up into a straight line, I'd like to know why you removed that reference. While it's not a locked down definitive reference, I don't see why it doesn't fit, because honestly, when I first read the item description, that is exactly what came to my mind. --Ashallond 19:02, 1 September 2007 (CDT)

  • i understand your enthusiasm for something you are so close to. unfortunately aligning your chakras is just one of those new-age nonsense phrases, adding a relatively obscure mathematical reference is unnecessary. cool, though. i almost wish i could leave it in in memory of my long dead mathematical ambitions. if you still disagree, you have two paths open to you. firstly, appeal to jinya whose word is law, she's a very reasonable woman. lastly, ask radiobugbear if one of the devs (isn't hotstuff a maths bod?) really did put this reference in on purpose. try for a jick show, though, because skullhead's an arts major. --Evilkolbot 01:22, 2 September 2007 (CDT)
    • I'd dispute the 'obscure' tag in this as I know it is taught in both Geometry in high school and college level geometry as well. While I do understand that aligning the chakras is a new age thing, I thought that it made a great parallel to something that would be considered almost the exact opposite of 'new age.' Regardless I do believe I will dispute. and forget a Jick show. I'll just ask em directly. Cause I'm cool like that. ;) --Ashallond 10:51, 2 September 2007 (CDT)
      • oh, so you're that ashallond. forgive my impudence. i still think there's no reference, though, though no doubt you'll prove me wrong. --Evilkolbot 11:23, 2 September 2007 (CDT)
        • or I could of course be seeing things. I've been known to do that. Usually something involving pink elephants and shiny pebbles. Don't ask. It's saner. --Ashallond 11:36, 2 September 2007 (CDT)
          • Skully wrote it and hadn't heard of it so no reference. oh well, I was wrong. Move along nothing to see here...move along. --Ashallond 18:17, 2 September 2007 (CDT)

Nice try?

What are you nicely trying to mean by "nice try", do you think I want to advertise a book which author died 87 years ago? Grammar nazi 09:03, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

  • nice attempt at a reference, putting a name check for something you love a lot into the wiki. does jick speak italian? is there an english translation of this book? could this possibly be a reference? --Evilkolbot 09:42, 22 September 2007 (CDT)
    • In other words, the book mentioned is completely irrelevant. --Quietust (t|c) 13:32, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

Dyspepsi reference addition

Thanks for the encouragement. But is it really necessary to put the same reference on all Dyspepsi pages? Sometimes I don't see that principle being applied across KOL wiki consistently and it's also quite some work :P

Also I have another question, for some of the new monsters, the "moxie for no hit" part gives an error message, eg The undying guy in the pyramids. But I can't seem to find the right edit to amend the error... --Nineheadeddragon

  1. yes, yes it is. consistency is all, if it's lacking providing it is a moral imperative.
  2. if there's an error in one of the templates, get some evidence (when does it happen, how, what symptoms, under what circumstances) and either add talk to for the template itself or the person who most edited it. --Evilkolbot 02:21, 13 November 2007 (CST)
  • Cool, I'll do it then, but will only be able to complete in several installments. Somehow my connectivity recently seems to have gone back to dial-up-like slowness!!! And I'll add a note on those errors, essentially the system can't read the "<" and ">" signs properly I think. --Nineheadeddragon 09:22, 14 November 2007 (CST)
    • excellent. many thanks. for future reference, though, could you mark mass edits like this as minor edits there's a checkbox above the Save Page button. it saves on spamming up the recent changes page. thanks again. --Evilkolbot 11:41, 14 November 2007 (CST)
      • sorry, new to all this. And I noticed that the calendar is consistently one day slower than in KOL. can anyone update that?--Nineheadeddragon
        • calendar? which one? --Evilkolbot 01:22, 20 November 2007 (CST)
      • ah nvm small timing difference of a few hours between KOL rollover and wiki calendar rollover...--Nineheadeddragon

Message Reply?

I'm a compulsive saver and I'm used to Pmwiki which only lists the most recent change per person per page. I also thought that marking it "minor" suppressed it from the recent changes page. I will try to resist spam saving in the future. Shogun42 15:23, 26 November 2007 (CST)

Pirate Data

Upon learning of some users entering fraudulent data into my pirate map tracker (marking a large area as "ordinary treasure" so other people wouldn't look there and possibly find a tiki idol or rainbow pearl), I wiped data from 2 such users. I believe one of those may have been yours - you may want to check and re-enter them. --Quietust (t|c) 16:42, 9 December 2007 (CST)

  • thanks for the heads up. i'm currently reported on the wiki as being at if you want to check my data again. i'm just re-entering it now. --Evilkolbot 17:33, 9 December 2007 (CST)

Wiki Suggestions

Re: Discussion on user page Thanks for suggestions i'm new to KoL wiki ;) appreciate it.--Wilbemine 17:26, 19 December 2007 (CST)

Charm Redirects

You deleted the Charrrm page which redirected to Template:Pirate Charrrms, I guess because redirecting to template is ungood. In that case, could you please delete the Charm page as well, since it does the same thing? --Vovan 13:12, 18 January 2008 (CST)

  • done. --Evilkolbot 13:29, 18 January 2008 (CST)
    • What about Charrrm (or even "charm" since the latter only gives an adventure and the ltte kitty charm) being a disambiguation page for all the pirate charrms? --Plater (t|c) 15:09, 18 January 2008 (CST)
      • i see no problem with a charm disambiguation page. probably should remain template-free, though. --Evilkolbot 17:29, 18 January 2008 (CST)

Talk: Strange Shiny Disc

On the discussion page for the strange shiny disc, I removed a comment that added nothing to the conversation, calling it pointless and rude. Why did you return the comment? It was a fairly blatant attempt at trolling, and the page is better without it. ...In case you weren't aware, "tl;dr" means "too long; didn't read" --Unnatural20 20:15, 24 January 2008 (CST)

  • there is a rule here that you do not, under any circumstances, edit the text left on talk pages by other people. full stop. which is why i reverted your change. sometimes it will be necessary for a mod to remove comments that break the wiki or, after discussion, that are spoilerish or defamatory. this didn't meet any of those criteria. i have a feeling Crawly2 was trying to make a joke by being sarcastic in an aol-user kind of a way, since three lines isn't long. --Evilkolbot 01:58, 25 January 2008 (CST)
    • Aright, thanks. --Unnatural20 20:12, 25 January 2008 (CST)

Redirect deletion

02:55, January 18, 2008 Evilkolbot (Talk | contribs) deleted "Kingdom of Buffing" (content was: '#REDIRECT Buffbot' (and the only contributor was 'MrDolomite') nope, you don't get your own page) [1]

FYI, I wasn't "making my own page", I was saving steps. Rather than
  1. coming to the wiki,
  2. searching for "Kingdom of Buffing",
  3. finding nothing and then,
  4. scrolling through the results to find Buffbot
  5. and then clicking on Buffbot
  6. to find the info that could have been found back at step #2 with the redirect.

I figured it may help other users of the wiki down the road. While there is great info here, adding organizing/linking/categorizing it in different ways, is the best use of a wiki, IMHO. — MrDolomite • Talk 19:12, 26 January 2008 (CST)

  • I can explain this to you, the redirect is a self serving interest. And if you are looking for kingdom of buffing then you already know it's a buffbot. --Chunky_boo 23:56, 26 January 2008 (CST)
  • yeah, what he said. and besides, your buffbot doesn't fulfil any of the criteria for user pages in the main space, even as a redirect. --Evilkolbot 03:38, 27 January 2008 (CST)
    • sorry, forgot to say. if you feel i have been harsh in the first instance and unnecessarily unsympathetic in the second, you can appeal to a different mod, and, should they be unwilling to see your side, ultimate power rests with jinya since it's her wiki. --Evilkolbot 04:28, 27 January 2008 (CST)
      • No harm done. FYI, I'm not affiliated with KoB in any way, shape or form, so I apologize if it appeared I was pushing some kind of an agenda. I had heard it mentioned ingame chat and figured the wiki was the place to find out more about it. Thx. — MrDolomite • Talk 16:25, 20 February 2008 (CST)

Advanced Farming

Hello. Why did you delete my edits to advanced farming? The page is useless as is, and the talk is stalled for months. No one is able to learn anything from the way it is. I can't see your objection to making the Wiki better. --Duty 19:41, 7 February 2008 (CST)

Talk:Player Hit Messages#New Ones

Ah, I guess the master list just isn't being updated very often.  :( Thanks for pointing that out. --Starwed 05:15, 10 February 2008 (CST)


I find it easier to just used the unsigned template: might I ask why you are replacing it with a lot of other stuff? --CG1:t,c,e 21:10, 18 February 2008 (CST)

I'm gonna guess he is using substitution. Namely, {{subst:unsigned|blah}}. This causes the code to be directly inserted into the page, rather than dynamically referenced through the template. This was originally meant to be required of the template, but Quietust removed this when I griped about it. I guess Evilkolbot likes it subst'd better. --Flargen 21:36, 18 February 2008 (CST)
Actually, looking at your most recent de-subst'ing's history, EK's edit was done (just) before Quietust removed the requirement. --Flargen 21:43, 18 February 2008 (CST)