User talk:Dehstil

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Welcome. Start a new section for any new concerns. Respond to discussions started on your own talk page there.--Dehstil

Logging Script

I started to code something last night when I hit a roadbump, a huge roadbump.

if(document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0].innerHTML.indexOf('You eat') > -1) {

  var split = document.getElementsByTagName('blockquote')[0].innerHTML.substring(12, document.getElementsByTagName('blockquote')[0].innerHTML.length).split('.');
  splt.split(" ");


If you were to run the script above in the inventory page it would generate the "name" of the item. The problem is that the name of the item is not always the exact name. There are two ways I could go from here. One way would be to hope that this only occurs on a few items and make a list of those with their proper names. Or, and I think this way is probably going to be the only way, I could parse URLs and if the URL contained "which=X" then it would parse the database of Item IDs and therefore determine the item that way. From there, it would read the consumption data. If you have a better suggestion, I would appreciate it. ~SomeStranger

  • Yeah the roadbump I ran into was that the url for the page with all the info is always "/inventory.php?which=1&action=message" and document.referrer always yields "/inventory.php" when all I really wanted was "/inv_eat.php?pwd=################################&which=1&whichitem=672". "which=" controls whether it displays "consumables", "equipment", or "miscellaneous" while "whichitem=" is the item number. I guess it'd be a little complex, but the most straightforward way would be to hook on to the comsumption links then. Grr.--Dehstil (t|c) 14:42, 20 August 2006 (CDT)
  • As it turns out this isn't much of a problem.--Dehstil (t|c) 17:11, 4 June 2007 (CDT)


Hey, I noticed all your deletions when my KoLWiki start page came up blank and the automatic search for terms did also. Perhaps all those redirects would be "unneeded" if the search feature worked properly. Until yesterday, "Speak, Frat Boy, and Enter" turned up a blank page and the search went "duh" as well. Of course, "Speak, Frat Boy, And Enter" would tell you all about the page, but, of course, the page's very title (and URL) was a typo. Let me reiterate, the search would not help you unless you were aware of the aberrant capitalization. In which case, you wouldn't really need to search anyways.

My KoLWiki start page? "Safe Adventuring". The forum link that I originally got the link from had the URL as "...index.php/Safe adventuring", but I had never noticed until today because the redirect did its job transparently, giving me the page I was after for 5 months. Like it should have. Until today.

If the whole reason for turning on Capitalization Awaregness was the 30-some familiar hatchlings that use it, I'd suggest turning it off and changing their URLs to "Familiar Name (hatchling)". It would make the Wiki much more useful(as in somewhat) as a searchable reference. It does no good to have a search if you have to know how to capitalize as well as spell what it is you are looking for. The redirects are needed to patch up this shortcoming.

As you might have guessed, I'm going to restore that redirect so that current and future newbies that run across that useful and informative forum post don't find themselves sent to the Wiki equivalent of a 404 with no means of finding out where the page went.--Tara Phinstashun 23:21, 8 October 2006 (CDT)

  • Incorrect bookmarks are not a valid excuse to leave in unneeded redirects - users should fix their bookmarks instead. The only cases where capitalization redirects are necessary is when the page name contains words 3 or fewer characters long (any others are completely unnecessary and can be resolved simply by typing the page title in Search and clicking 'Go'), and even those are questionable - the only redirect, in my opinion, needed in such a situation is one with the entire page name in lowercase (and MAYBE one with Each Word Capitalized Like Some Rather Strange People Seem To Prefer). --Quietust 08:45, 9 October 2006 (CDT)

Clan Stuff

Oops - the dyslexia demon claims another victim! :) A Jukebox and all the Rumpus Room stuff should be category "Rumpus Room Furniture" (at least I guess that's what we're calling it) while all the non Rumpus Room stuff Clan Activity Log, etc. gets category "Clan Hall Furnishings". --Gymnosophist 12:18, 19 October 2006 (CDT)

  • Ah, hmm.--Dehstil (t|c) 12:22, 19 October 2006 (CDT)
    • You're too quick for me! Ah well, "Rumpus Room Furnishings" will do fine for the Rumpus Room stuff. --Gymnosophist 12:31, 19 October 2006 (CDT)
  • I forgive you for your brain fart, it happens to the best of us. ;-) --Barstool 20:33, 19 October 2006 (CDT)

External Links Returned

By jove, you did it! Well done :).--SomeStranger (t|c) 18:49, 31 October 2006 (CST)

  • Should be in perfect order now; I read "3. Wiki external links have been indistinguishable from internal links ever since the skin change. The external link markers need to be returned to the layout. This is a fairly urgent issue that needs to be fixed.". As for "5. {{subst:templates}} for starting new pages were proposed. This would make creating new item pages easier for wiki users who aren't intimately familiar with the existing creation and layout of pages.", does mean something that makes use of preloading etc for article creation?--Dehstil (t|c) 19:37, 31 October 2006 (CST)


Oopsie. Thanks for correcting my mis-click there. :) --sl1me 18:33, 24 November 2006 (CST)


That was partially me, reuploading images. I'm still getting a bit used to admin stuff on here, and I'm trying to teach myself the Wiki ways. My bad.--Clackling 00:22, 1 December 2006 (CST)

Weapon Attack Messages

Great job with the accordians, I like the way you've set it up. I'll use those pages as references and try to tackle a couple sections when I get time (unless of course you want to do ALL of them). --Gleezus 17:21, 15 December 2006 (CST)

Mr. Klaw data

Could I ask what you meant by "fix last edit" here? If it was the previous edit (mine), I can't find anything that actually needed fixing. --Ayako 12:07, 20 December 2006 (CST)

  • Hmm, my mistake. Just fixed that and zigota's edit.--Dehstil (t|c) 13:28, 20 December 2006 (CST)

Redirect Deletion

I strongly disagree with your deletion of capitalization redirects with three words. Typing "angry farmer candy" in the search box and pressing go should automatically send you to the appropriate page.--SomeStranger (t|c) 00:51, 9 February 2007 (CST)

  • Sorry about that *restores*.--Dehstil (t|c) 16:20, 9 February 2007 (CST)

i'm not sure what you meant, but thank you very much!

Colored Signature

  • Your signature is always green, and it isn't the default color of a signature (blue). Can you show me how to change a signature color?--Coolguy00001 08:25, 16 February 2007 (CST)
  • Thanks Dehstil! --Coolguy00001 21:54, 16 February 2007 (CST)

Trophy Number

How do you find trophy numbers? --CG1:t,c,e 18:28, 13 July 2007 (CDT)

  • See my talk page for the answer. --Quietust (t|c) 19:41, 13 July 2007 (CDT)
  • Either that or by hacking :P, but seriously, yes, via html.

Proposed Changes to Recipe article

I noticed you have been a contributor to Recipe. I've proposed some fundamental changes on how it's connected in the wiki and would like to invite you to discuss them on Talk:Recipe.
Thanks! ColtsScore 16:53, 16 November 2007 (CST)