Template talk:Effect

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  • Should this template include the obtained from/by section and auto-include the effects category? --JRSiebz 16:22, 15 Jul 2005 (Central Daylight Time)
  • It would be nice to auto-include the effects category, but then the template would also appear in the category. If we can live with that, then by all means, yes. The template can be modified to include the obtained from/by category... but if so, then __NOEDITSECTION__ should also be added, to prevent people from accidentally editting the template instead of the page itself. --Aardvark (Talk | Contribs) 05:37, 30 Sep 2005 (MDT)

The current template is wrong. Effects are listed under desc_effect.php?whicheffect= in the game, not desc_effect.php?whichitem= . Please correct.--GoldS 21:01, 28 June 2007 (CDT)

  • Well it used to be desc_effect.php?whichitem= in game, well 'till NS13 ;-) Or maybe it wasn't, well something effect-wise used the term 'item' instead of 'effect' in it somewhere, sometime. --JRSiebz (|§|) 20:14, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
  • It would be appreciated if the effects without IDs were added to a Category that isn't NeedsContent, which currently contains pretty much every effect in the game, as barely any have IDs.--Ryo Sangnoir 08:40, 29 June 2007 (CDT)
    • Fixed the URL generation - I did a copy/paste from {{item}} and apparently missed a spot in the URL. As for an alternative category, just name one and I'll drop it in for now. --Quietust (t|c) 20:10, 30 June 2007 (CDT)
  • The message when no # is known should link to Effects by number, since that explains how to discover it. --Starwed 04:32, 1 July 2007 (CDT)

People keep adding "can be removed with a SGEEA" to effect pages. Perhaps it would just be better to head them off at the pass by noting that most effects can be removed by it, and that exceptions are noted on the SGEEA page. Additionally, perhaps we should consider adding arguments to the template for AT/S/TT buff duration and Sauceror potion duration are displayed automatically, or asterisked and linked (Buff page) to like {{combatFrequency}} is linked to Statistics Notes. --Bagatelle 20:59, 10 September 2007 (CDT)


It would be nice if there was something you could put under "descid" so that it doesn't stick an id onto Category:Needs Content, and then it says "descid currently impossible to determine" or something like that just like the plurals. Then, for the retired effects before descid rolled out, Olive Drabness, etc. could be removed from Needs Content. --CG1:t,c,e 21:48, 11 October 2007 (CDT)

Making the template auto-cat

Would any admin be willing to add code in the include-only section to make the page auto-cat? The following should do the trick, while behaving nicely in regards to categorizing other pages that use Effect for various things.:

{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Template:Effect|[[Category:Effects| {{FULLPAGENAME}}]]|{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Established Standards: Effect Pages|[[Category:Effects| {{PAGENAME}}|{{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|Category||[[Category:Effects]]}}}}}}

If anyone knows a prettier way of doing that, feel free to bring it up. And then maybe we should have a bot go through and remove all of the manual categorizations on pages that invoke the template. Have it go through the skills, too, since I just added auto-cat capabilities to that, and I'd rather not go through the removal manually all by myself. Again. --Flargen 06:56, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

16th feb 2008 change

Requesting change: the effect field as blue enchantment text instead of a section, to make it in line with the new game update --Hrag 21:32, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

View ingame should have a Mafia link

I'm willing to bet that more people connect to KoL on localhost than on any single one of the wwwX. servers being linked to. There should be a link in the desc_effect.php? part of this template (and any other similar ones) that points to mafia. --Hippoking 16:21, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Information hiding

The new collapsing div containing the effect ids is making it very hard to check the actual page at a glance, can we fix the centering without doing this? Discordance (talk) 18:17, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

The discussion on discussion came up with a design from Darkcodelagsniper I was happy with. Can other interested editors look it over? Discordance (talk) 13:11, 11 January 2014 (UTC)