Talk:Yog-Urt, Elder Goddess of Hatred

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miss: You grind your teeth together so hard that your gums bleed.

lose: Your hands clench into fists. Blood seeps from the gashes your fingernails make in your palms.

Failed attempt at a spell: You are too far gone, too consumed by hatred to exert that kind of control.You scream and claw at your face. Your horrible, despicable face.

Mer-kin healscroll works, mer-kin killscroll does not. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 05:43, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

This is by far the hardest fight I have had in this game since NS11's Naughty Sorceress. Having a bunch of permed +HP skills hurts you. Being a muscle class hurts you. I was a seal clubber with every skill, so... good god. Of course it didn't help that my initial strategy was to buff myself. After a few turns of that, I farmed fish meat until all the buffs were gone, then did the exact opposite -- remove all +HP and +muscle stuff. This left me with max HP 93 (from base muscle 30). I did not get a chance to test whether the Mer-kin gutgirdle or whalebone corset help. Also, now I get to go edit the HP Restorers page which is very badly in need of some attention.... --Greycat (talk) 14:40, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

  • So to beat him you have to be as weak as possible? That sounds rather strange. If sombody could elaborate the full conditions that you need to fulfil to fight this dude then please do.--Tombot (talk) 15:08, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
  • i cannot even attack him regularly. i get the message: "You are too far gone, too consumed by hatred to exert that kind of control." and then a message where he dammages me. my attack does not follow through and no damage is done--Mco (talk) 15:16, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
    • (edit conflict) I get the "exert that kind of control" on spells. Combat items I've been able to use, but I've never lasted longer than the second round. There seems to be an aurora that does far more damage (thousands of HP) than the attacks, which do maybe 90% of your HP. I suspect there is a trick I've yet to find. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 16:06, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm assuming this is one of those new mechanicy work out the right mix of equipment, effects and proper combat items deal. At least with my preliminary poking about it looks like at least some combat items work normally, and then you can only use a given item once(at least I definitely got a "hate that item, never use it again" after the mouthsoap.). Brute forcing it just won't fly - or at least if it will, those numbers are beyond my reach. Mouthsoap and Sea Lasso seemed to work as expected, sea cowbell gave the expected delevel message, but if the one round stun did anything, I missed it.Sawdust did nothing useful. Pool torpedo just did 1pt of damage. But I really haven't had much success, since I think the longest I've been up against her is 3 rounds of funkslinging combat items and healing items before the black blood nuke kicks in (and that may have been my fault if using an inappropriate item like a pool torpedo invokes something of the sort.)Perhaps it's some sort of endurance test where you keep her from hitting you and figure out how to keep from killing yourself? I didn't notice that my eelskin bucker did anything, and one try where I loaded up with a clown hammer and 21 fake hands, the self-mutilation damage seemed undiminished. --Noskilz (talk) 16:03, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

So the summary below (currently) is lying. I buffed up +840 elemental damage and tried to play whack-a-mole. I hit for 1, no elemental damage mentioned, and was promptly defeated. --Wilbemine (talk) 19:54, 22 April 2013 (EST).

  • I think just incomplete. I had my familiar do full power elemental attacks several times. I believe if you get the

Suckrament effect off, you'll find the +dam very useful. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 00:19, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

in summary

  1. every round you are definitely hit for 90% hp
  2. sometimes (on successful hit?) you are hit for a squillion damage and insta-killed
  3. attack spells are (sometimes?) blocked
  4. weapon damage is reduced to 1
  5. bonus elemental damage is fine
  6. the first use of a combat item is fine
  7. a second use of the same combat item does nothing
  8. immune to staggers and stuns
  9. can be debuffed
  10. interacts with at least one item (prayer beads) in a favourable way

did i miss something? please edit the list above. also, if i'm mixing this up with the other one start a new list over there. ta. --Evilkolbot (talk) 17:09, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

  • Spectral jelly is not useful. Using all the Mer-kin juices (cooljuice, fastjuice, ragejuice, smartjuice, strongjuice) before the fight doesn't help. I'm wondering, without any evidence, if the Nemesis revenge demon would help, but I haven't done that this ascension, so I can't summon it. This monster is all about hate, is there some combat item to fight hate? --Club (#66669) (Talk) 19:00, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
If I recall (and I don't know this for sure), waiting until round 10 to damage it (or maybe it's the other god) seems to be the way to kill it. — Cool12309 (talk) 19:36, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
That's the ticket. After six or seven rounds of healing only, (low hp helpful because Yog-Urt continues to attack for ~90% total hp) the Suckrament effect goes away and the battle can be fought normally. Seems like familiar attacks were what was trigging the "squillion damage" attacks for me. After that, not a hard fight. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 19:55, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
For the record, I had three sets of Mer-kin prayerbeads equipped, and was Beaten Up and Hardly Poisoned at All for HP reduction. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 20:03, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Probably of note: if you reload the combat page without doing anything ('You twiddle your thumbs'), this enemy WILL attack anyway and instakill you (at least while the sucrament is still active). I noticed this when I ctrl-R'ed the fight in firefox when my relay browser was failing to show the next round page. --Nappa (talk) 20:55, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Spaceballs

  • Is there any chance that a Spaceballs reference is here? "Yogurt! Yogurt! I HATE Yogurt! Even with strawberries!" --Sparksol (t|c) 22:03, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
    • I had the same thought, but well... the overall theme is unquestionably a reference to Yog-Sosoth from the writings of H.P. Lovecraft. Since I don't see any specific Spaceballs references e.g. "merchandising!" or "the schwartz" I think we have to assume that it's just a case of parallel comedic development. Yo-da into Yo-gurt; Yog-sothoth into Yog-urt.--Tainted Food Product (talk) 02:30, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
    • I, too, went through the thought process that Tainted Food Product describes. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 03:58, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
    • Is there that much hatred out there for yogurt? It seems awfully coincidental to me. Though I have to admit, the logic that TPTMBG could have added additional references, even in minor places like miss/hit messages, is persuasive. --Stannius (talk) 19:04, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

What I did

  1. Wear 3 Mer-kin prayer beads
  2. Tweak your stats so that, when the anchovies effect is up, your HP is down to around 100 or so. You can fully heal with red pixel potions, red potions, filthy poultices, and gauze garters while it lasts, but you want to be able to hit hard when it wears off.
  3. Do nothing but heal until the anchovies effect wears off.
  4. Once the anchovies effect is gone, attack with spells until she dies.

--IMJack (talk) 00:12, 24 April 2013 (UTC)


What I did

  1. Wear 3 Mer-kin prayer beads.
  2. Have HP at 325. If your HP is too high, the 90% attack will do more damage than your healing items can heal.
  3. use one of each: scented massage oil, healscroll, soggy used band-aid, extra-strength red potion, red pixel potion.
  4. After you use the red pixel potion the suckrament effect will vanish, and you can then use powerful spells to defeat her.

--Stonecat (talk) 16:12, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Stonecat. My HP was at 350 so I funk slung a gauze garter and a filthy poultice with the last two iot cover the difference. Almost missed that she only takes elemental damage.--MageRed (talk) 06:19, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

What I did

  1. Wear 3 Mer-kin prayer beads.
  2. Wear +spelldamage shirt/hand/offhand.
  3. Use Mer-kin Smartjuice to boost Mysticality and lower Muscle to almost nothing.
  4. Cast Jalapeno Saucesphere buff to provide auto-heal after Suckrament effect wears off.
  5. First 5 rounds of combat: Use cheap HP restorers, like filthy poultice, gauze garter, palm-frond fan, etc., since my HP was crazy low.
  6. After Suckrament wears off: Cast Saucegeyser for about 3 rounds. End.

--Hppyhppo (talk) 19:07, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

What I did

  • Three sets of beads
  • Oil of stability
  • Maxed moxie, min'd muscle (as Seal Clubber); muscle was at 3 via cooljuice and smartjuice, moxie was well over 1K.
  • Equip best ranged weapon and offhand (or weapons, as I had DFSS) that gave Elemental damage (Diablolical crossbows for me).
  • In remaining slots (back, shirt), equip best Elemental damage increasers.
  • Use some elemental buffs as well (In my case, Hodgman's coat and I didn't bother changing from my Bjornified Drone).
  • After debuff, was at 96 max HP, lasted the 5 rounds easily, then shot her to death. She couldn't touch me at all.

Seems to be relatively easy to do as any class, especially with the drops available in the nearby areas.--Arashmin (talk) 17:01, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Simplifying the fight

I think you guys might be overcomplicating things. When I fight Yog-Urt, I don't lower my Muscle, I just make sure I don't have any skills or equipment boosting it. Wear prayer beads, use cheap heals, and if you're worried, either boost moxie or toss a sea lasso so Yog won't be a problem after Suckrament wears off. She's fairly easy to out-stat, and the +elemental damage from Dread is a very economical way to charge a ranged weapon. --Mokume (talk) 19:32, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Probably not the case; when you have a lot of the major skills permed that increase your HP, it becomes really easy to be out of range of most in-battle heals, as most are at the ~100 range. You must of had relatively low Muscle, probably as a Moxie class; not really a possibility for a Seal Clubber to get in around there with low Muscle. But as stated above in my strat, it's actually pretty trivial to drop your stats enough and go with ranged attacks or something else.--Arashmin (talk) 17:06, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Spading

The damage cap is eluding me at the moment... it's hard when you only get a few rounds to try things. I had elemental love songs reduced from 3667->349 and 2698->299. This is almost consistent with (X-50)^.7+50 but my results are off by a few points. I'll try to remember to keep working on this in future runs. --Greycat (talk) 02:33, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

  • A little copy-pasting into mathematica + collecting two datapoints of my own: ((.75*x-100))^.7+100 --Cannonfire40 (talk) 22:26, 22 September 2013 (UTC)