Talk:White Citadel burger

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Apparently, there is reason to believe that the adventures gained increase with the number of burgers eaten. --Quietust 11:27, 23 July 2006 (CDT)

Ragnok came up with the best data so far:
ragnok wrote:
Note that the first instance of 4 appeared after the 23rd burger eaten, and the first instance of 5 appeared after the 31st. People have gotten as many as 7, although that's not a confirmed cap. Forum Discussion --EtzHadaat 11:50, 23 July 2006 (CDT)

At this point, people who have started from none eaten and have saved all their info are proving this pattenr. The adventure caps are up to 8. Tens of people, tens of multis, tons of info. It really is confirmed at this point. --Scorpios 03:56, 26 July 2006 (CDT)

Does anyone know if the increase in gains is still there if you ascend? --Winterbay 16:04, 7 August 2006 (CET)

  • Several people on the forum have confirmed that it does remain after ascending. --Quietust 09:07, 7 August 2006 (CDT)


The HHGttG ref seems fairly spurious to me - the tone of the two deliveries is totally different, as is the context. The book ref is not a choice between two options, it's a re-grading of a previous status. --Chamelaeon 13:46, 8 August 2006 (CDT)

Frankly, I think that neither reference was done on purpose. They are both common phrases that have been used long before their respective books/movies have been made. I think you're examining your references too deep on this one.

I agree that the H2G2 reference is on the tenuous side (and struck me as being a bit of a leap of logic), as the burger itself and things pertaining to it have little or nothing to do with Douglas Adam's final oeuvre. Don't know enough about Pulp fiction to comment on second reference, but there are other references to the burger scene in the kingdom and if it's a direct quote I'd say to give the benefit of the doubt. --UltimateRandom 00:49, 1 July 2007 (GMT)

'Mostly greasy may be a reference to "Mostly Harmless", the title of a Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy book, and the "new" description of the planet Earth. "This is a very tasty burger" may be a reference to the movie "Pulp Fiction".'

I removed this for all the reasons listed above. The descriptions are common sayings. Should we reference everything that has the phrase "mostly (insert adjective here)"--Kjacobso 11:56, 13 July 2007 (CDT)


just wondering if you think it'd be worth mentioning the "best meal of my life" trophy somewhere here? --LizME 05:47, 22 August 2006 (CDT)

formula for gains

Right now the best hypothesis that I know of for the rate of adventure gain from the burger is 2 to (2+(burgers eaten/10)). If you have eaten 3 burgers, that gives a range of 2 to 2.3, which means that 70% of the time the range will be 2 to 2 and 30% of the time it will be 2 to 3. Similarly, after 45 burgers the range is 2 to 6.5. Therefore there is no "rounded down" aspect to the formula. If there is newer info somewhere, please link to it.... --Hellion 15:27, 22 August 2006 (CDT)

  • i stand corrected (again). --Evilkolbot 15:31, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
  • on reflection, perhaps this should be put into the text for the page. --Evilkolbot 15:35, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
  • the formula, not about me always being wrong, obviously. --Evilkolbot 15:35, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
    • Dude. Edit button. Seriously.--Lukarnis 09:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm wondering if its just the ceiling that changes, or the entire range. My experience (albeit limited) and a quick glance at the initial data seems to suggest that the entire range shifts up... --Sidrock 14:08, 05 February 2007 (PDT)

  • There's plenty more data in the original thread on the forums over here, showing that the bottom of the range definitely stays at 2. --Hellion 17:52, 5 February 2007 (CST)

Gains stay when ascending?

Does anyone know if the gains of the burger is reset when ascending or not? A note about this on the page could be good. -- NitraMo SA TT 13:19, 4 October 2006 (CDT)

Yes, gains stay when ascending.--Jubbers 00:53, 6 October 2006 (CDT)

Adventure gains under Bad Moon?

So, I realize there isn't likely to be much data on this one in the near future, but it may be the case that the increased adventure cap from having eaten many previous burgers does not apply under a Bad Moon. Can anyone with more data (mine so far is just 222) give a more definite statement? --Araltaln 21:16, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

Jesusfish, on the HCO forums:
Random- If you were thinking White Citadel burgers are a viable food choice for BM*, think again. After eating 14 burgers and getting 2 adventures from all of them, I think that the burgers give the min adventures in range while in BM.
So it looks like it's just always 2 in BM. --Starwed 22:07, 9 August 2007 (CDT)

I have the skill Pride, but I've eaten at least 30 burgers this ascension and I believe all of them have given me 2 adventures.Johnthescavenger 03:55, 5 October 2007 (CDT)

  • yup, me too. damn, i wish i'd read more widely. --Evilkolbot 02:01, 18 January 2008 (CST)


Going by today's Trivial Update (31 January 2008)..."There has been a slight change to the way White Citadel burgers work in Bad Moon. Propriety prohibits me from being any more specific." Sounds like it's time for more checking.--Sparksol 18:17, 31 January 2008 (CST)

I'm guessing that they've changed it so that now you can get 2-[3-8] adventures from it, but that range doesn't carry over from old ascensions. That's entirely a guess, though. We'll need some Bad Moon people on this. --Rabidzora 20:08, 31 January 2008 (CST)

Okay. I'd previously eaten 15, of which none were Bad Moon. Level 11 Turtle Tamer, Bad Moon. Bought 7 today. 2223232. That was an emotional rollercoaster. I'll add more tomorrow.

Edit: Also, I'm Proud.--NoHassles 20:53, 31 January 2008 (CST)

10th level TT on day 13 of this BM run- ate 7 burgers, got 2,2,2,2,3,2,2. Have Pride and Envy. Third BM run, I think.--Entwhistle 14:23, 1 February 2008 (CST)

Another 7. 2333323. Looks like you were right. --NoHassles 04:17, 2 February 2008 (CST)

  • 2223333, and these are my first seven this run (pride/gluttony), but not in bad mood generally. --Evilkolbot 05:32, 2 February 2008 (CST)
    • 3233343 day 2. --Evilkolbot 13:04, 3 February 2008 (CST)
    • 3343333 day 3. --Evilkolbot 13:54, 4 February 2008 (CST)
    • 3324343 day *ahem* 4. --Evilkolbot 14:10, 7 February 2008 (CST)

5 Burgers today, 3 adventures from every one!!!--Entwhistle 10:12, 2 February 2008 (CST)

7 burgers. 6 yeild 3 adventures, one 4. I'm surmisning/hoping tomorrow will have a higher ratio of 4 adventure yeilds. --Entwhistle 11:09, 3 February 2008 (CST)

7 burgers, adventure yeild was; 4,3,4,4,3,3,3.--Entwhistle 10:21, 4 February 2008 (CST) 7 Burgers today;2,4,4,4,7,2,2. --Entwhistle 22:53, 7 February 2008 (CST)

6 Burgers today;3,5,3,4,5,5,4. --Entwhistle 15:07, 5 February 2008 (CST)

7 Burgers today;3,5,5,6,4,6 --Entwhistle 12:36, 6 February 2008 (CST)

7 burgers today;6,2,2,2,7,6,3. --Entwhistle 12:51, 7 February 2008 (CST) 4,4,3,7,4,5,8,--Entwhistle 13:13, 9 February 2008 (CST)

My 61st -66th burgers in-run yielded: [3, 8 ,4 ,2 ,2 ,3], supporting the conclusion that burger consumption is tracked during Bad Moon runs these days, . --Clovis Sangrail (talk) 21:26, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

I think the interesting question with respect to burger adventure yield in Bad Moon is whether the increase stays or gets reset in your next Bad Moon run. --Jef 15:10, 9 March 2008 (CDT)

  • That's entirely idiotic. The entire point of bad moon is that nothing useful carries into it, ever. If this did carry into future BM runs (it doesn't), it would very officially be a Bug. --HikaruYami (talk) 19:24, 22 February 2013 (UTC)