Talk:Ultimate wad

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Currently the only one I know of is in Crovax1234's store (for 200 million meat).
It's definitely not from pulverizing a Mr. Accessory.
--DataVortex 18:07, 16 June 2006 (CDT)
There's 2 in the mall now.
[villa] Crovax1234: All I know is Xeno wanted me to use it.
--DataVortex 18:43, 16 June 2006 (CDT)

Can someone verify that those are the true values, just since the user is new, I'm skeptical. On the other hand, never mind, Crovax has verified that these are indeed the true values. Sorry for my doubt, they are just astronomically high.--Macman104 22:35, 16 June 2006 (CDT)

  • Is it possible that the values are dependent on your current level? If that's the case, you might get astronomical values if you're at level 11 or 12, but much lower values if you're level 1. If they're NOT level-dependent, then people would have one-day ascensions pretty much guaranteed, and I doubt that J&S would put anything in the game that would make that so easy.
    Also, is the Muscle gain always twice as high as the other two stats, or is it your prime stat that gets twice as much? -- Old Ned 01:49, 17 June 2006 (CDT)

if it is possible to pull this from hangks you could eat it and if you were a sealclubber, 10,000 muscle would get you to lvl 11 immediately
Advancement --charred 23:23, 16 June 2006 (CDT)

  • Not quite -- you need 10,801 substat points to get to level 11, according to the Advancement table. -- Old Ned 01:53, 17 June 2006 (CDT)

The stat-gain example given is for a level 5 character. Since this has a Level 6 consumption restriction on it now, should that example be altered for consistency with the item?--Al Khowarizmi 15:31, 29 October 2007 (CDT)

Instant level up

To me, it seems obvious having seen the screenshot of use: It gives substats required for a level, with 1/2 of your offstats. This is the equivalent of an instant level up, complete with offststs.

(The stat gainage is what you need to go from level 14 to level 15.

--Aprocalypse 03:58, 17 June 2006 (CDT)

  • Ah, that makes sense. Instantly raising you one level, whatever your current level is -- much less imbalancing. It still might make one-day ascensions easier, if you use it to jump instantly from level 10 to level 11 after finishing the Castle quest, but it doesn't make them a slam dunk the way jumping from level 1 to level 11 would. I think you've probably got it right on the money. -- Old Ned 05:45, 17 June 2006 (CDT)
    • I think it might be better used jumping level 9 to level 10, myself... level 10-11 is pretty fast through the castle. --Aprocalypse 06:07, 17 June 2006 (CDT)
      • You're probably right; I don't pay that much attention myself. Looks like Phlip has confirmed your theory about the stat gains on the article page, too. -- Old Ned 06:33, 17 June 2006 (CDT)
        • Well, not so much "confirmed" as "copied speculation from the forum thread that was reasonable enough to fit", namely that 10071 is the number of stat points between levels 14 and 15, so it makes sense for that to be the reason for that particular gain. Phlip 11:12, 17 June 2006 (CDT)
          • So, basically, it's the KoL equivalent of Pokemon's "Rare Candy". Right?--SoItBegins 09:03, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


Took that Plexiglass Pinky Ring nonsense off. If PPants gave 3 Twink Wads, why on earth would the ring give Ultimate? Zaku put it to rest here. Mr. Blonde 02:40, 18 June 2006 (CDT)

Possible reference/inspiration?

Given the numerous NetHack references that seem to be here, is the potion of gain level a possible reference or inspiration for this item? The effect (of an uncursed !oGL) is identical... -- Kalon999 02:23, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Who discovered this?

Does anyone know who was the first person to pulverize an ultra-rare? I think they should be noted in this article. That must have taken some serious guts. Smorgas 06:55, 25 February 2009 (UTC)