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Baron von Ratsworth

Can anyone provide the formula for Ratsworth's level/HP scaling? —Dentarthurdent(T,C) 00:25, 29 April 2006 (CDT)

pre-quest

Seems to be 4 types of squares in the darkness:

Each type occupies a square, and doesn't move within an acension, but can rotate through possible adventures of that type, which probably only applies to the non-combat adventures (eg square might be Raternal Bonds one turn and Gleaming the Cube the next, but never drunken rat).

I have some evidence for this (thanks to whoever discovered the faucet doesn't move for inspiration), but have not done any thorough testing. Anyone care to try and disprove this for me please? Teffania

  • That is quite true. I haven't tried adventuring several times in drunken rat squares, but it seems rather likely that one will only find rats there, especially after having explored the whole cellar. I did try adventuring in the non-combat squares several times, and always got a non-combat adventure (which one you get each time is random).
If you try to go into the Baron's square after defeating him, you get the following message (no adventure is used):
You've already slain Baron von Ratsworth.
I have my whole cellar mapped - if someone sets up a table, I can fill it with what I've found. I found one faucet and one Baron (of course), and three non-combat squares. Everything else was rats. --Pcentella 06:06, 25 Oct 2005 (MDT)

yes, i also got 3 non-combat squares. I very much expect that all the locations change for each person/each accension though. Just to check, here is my map (F= faucet, B=Baron, R=drunk rat, S=non-combat adventure):
RRRRR
RSRRF
SRRRR
RBRRR
RSRRR
Also I adventured several times in a couple of drunken rat combat squares and got the same adventure (or at least a drunken rat combat one, i didn't pay attention to details, in case ther eare multiple drunken rat combats) each time. Teffania

  • No need for tables then. :-) Here's my map:
RRRRR
RRSRR
RRRRF
RRSBR
RRRSR
I think either the map is completely random, or there are a bunch of different maps, and one is randomly chosen. --Pcentella 09:43, 25 Oct 2005 (MDT)
    • In all my ascensions (8 or so) the faucet has been in that square just below the top right corner (5,2), except one where it was 2,3. Is this just an amazing coincidence or what? --Santasassassin 19:04, 14 February 2007 (CST)

Faucet/Baron Location

So far I have found that the Baron is allways in one of the squares next to the Faucet. If so (and I'd like help confirming it) it means the basement can be searched more quickly by using a 'checkerboard' pattern, exploring every other square until you hit the faucet.

The extention of this is that there are two Baron/Faucet squares, and which is which isn't determined until you adventure in one of them. At that point, the square you adventured in first becomes the Faucet, and the other becomes the Baron.


Doubt it. One time, the Baron was in the third square and the Faucet was in the 16th square. Anarch 15:01, 2 December 2005 (Central Standard Time)

  • I had the faucet show in the very first square once(upper left), and the Baron in the last (lower rightmost) square. -- Neongrey 01:20, 15 December 2005 (Central Standard Time)

Figuring out non combat drop rates

I'll hit the same square ten times for ten days to get an idea of how often the different adventures pop up

Thursday, Jan 26, 10 adventures: 1 - This Song is for the Rats - beer, 4 - Tucking in the Friar - beer, 1 - Getting the Spins - bottle of rum, 3 - Yaaaaay, beer! - beer, 1 - Raternal Bonds - ice-cold fotie. --RyokoYahagi 00:26, 26 January 2006 (Central Standard Time)

Friday, Jan 27, 10 adventures: 2 - Yaaaaay, beer! - beer, 1 - Getting the Spins - bottle of rum, 2 - Raternal Bonds - ice-cold fotie, 1 - Tucking in the Friar - beer, 2 - Man'sh Besht Friend - beer, 1 - Getting the Spins - bottle of vodka, 1 - Getting the Spins - bottle of tequila. --RyokoYahagi 01:09, 27 January 2006 (Central Standard Time)

Saturday, Jan 28, 10 adventures: 5 - Raternal Bonds - ice-cold fotie, 2 - Getting the Spins - bottle of vodka, 1 - Getting the Spins - bottle of tequila, 1 - Yaaaaay, beer! - beer, 1 - Getting the Spins - bottle of gin. --RyokoYahagi 00:15, 28 January 2006 (Central Standard Time)

Sun, Jan 29, 10 adventures: 2 - Raternal Bonds - ice-cold fotie, 1 - Getting the Spins - bottle of rum, 2 - Yaaaaay, beer! - beer, 3 - Tucking in the Friar - beer, 2 - This Song is for the Rats - beer.

Mon, Jan 30, 10 adventures: 3 - Tucking in the Friar - beer, 1 - Yaaaaay, beer! - beer, 3 - Raternal Bonds - ice-cold fotie, 1 - Gleaming the Cube - boxed wine, 1 - This Song is for the Rats - beer, 1 - Man'sh Besht Friend - beer.

Tue, Jan 31, 10 adventures: 2 - Man'sh Besht Friend - beer, 2 - Raternal Bonds - ice-cold fotie, 1 - Getting the Spins - bottle of whiskey, 1 - The Cask at Hand - slap and tickle, 1 - Getting the Spins - bottle of vodka, 1 - This Song is for the Rats - beer, 1 - Tucking in the Friar - beer, 1 - Yaaaaay, beer! - beer.

Wed, Feb 1, 10 adventures: 3 - Yaaaaay, beer! - beer, 1 - Man'sh Besht Friend - beer, 2 - This Song is for the Rats - beer, 1 - Tucking in the Friar - beer, 2 - Getting the Spins - bottle of rum, 1 - Raternal Bonds - ice-cold fotie.

Thu, Feb 2, 10 adventures: 2 - Raternal Bonds - ice-cold fotie, 1 - Getting the Spins - bottle of gin, 2 - Yaaaaay, beer! - beer, 2 - Man'sh Besht Friend - beer, 2 - This Song is for the Rats - beer, 1 - Getting the Spins - bottle of rum.

Fri, Feb 3, 10 adventures: 1 - Getting the Spins - bottle of whiskey, 2 - Raternal Bonds - ice-cold fotie, 2 - This Song is for the Rats - beer, 1 - Tucking in the Friar - beer, 2 - Yaaaaay, beer! - beer, 1 - Getting the Spins - bottle of rum, 1 - Man'sh Besht Friend - beer.

Sat, Feb 4, 10 adventures: 2 - Man'sh Besht Friend - beer, 2 - Getting the Spins - bottle of tequila, 3 - This Song is for the Rats - beer, 1 - Tucking in the Friar - beer, 1 - Raternal Bonds - ice-cold fotie, 1 - Getting the Spins - bottle of gin.

Added tables to the main page. Booze drops are grouped by utility - beers, foties, bottles of booze and boxed wine (which can be used to make cocktails and advanced cocktails), and advanced cocktails.

Info is replicated here in case it is remove from the front page in a future edit.

Booze Number Percentage
Beer 57 57%
Fotie 21 21%
Bottle/Box 21 21%
Advanced Cocktail 1 1%
Drop Number Percentage
bottle of gin 3 14.3%
bottle of rum 7 33.3%
bottle of tequila 4 19.1%
bottle of vodka 4 19.1%
bottle of whiskey 2 9.5%
boxed wine 1 4.8%

I'll add more data in future ascensions.

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Nice big ugly lump in the "Notes" section by "Musaffathegreat" needs wikified. I'll stop short of my friend's recommendation that he be shot for saying "By the way, sorry for the formatting, I don't know anything about internet coding.", but it did make me stop for a minute. ;-) I'll fix it up tomorrow if nobody gets it in the interim. --GreyKnight 20:53, 1 September 2006 (CDT)

Testing Data

  • After 100 trials, the following drop rates were found for the non-combat adventures. See discussion for methodology used in obtaining these numbers. If you wish to refine these numbers, please use the same method and run a significant number of trials before adding to this table. Do not add single results.
Booze Number Percentage
Beer 57 57%
Fotie 21 21%
Bottle/Box 21 21%
Advanced Cocktail 1 1%
  • The kind of booze dropped in the Bottle/Box category (by Getting the Spins and Gleaming the Cube) is given in the table below. This is based on only 21 results in that category, and should not be regarded as definitive.
Drop Number Percentage
bottle of gin 3 14.3%
bottle of rum 7 33.3%
bottle of tequila 4 19.1%
bottle of vodka 4 19.1%
bottle of whiskey 2 9.5%
boxed wine 1 4.8%

Musaffathegreat: I spent 115 adventures in one non-combat square. These were my results: in 115 adventures I got:


6 advanced drinks

68 bottles of beer

23 bottles of gin, rum, tequila, vodka, or whiskey

2 boxed wines

16 ice-cold foties


If my math is correct, that means that the statistics are about:


5% chance of an advanced drink

59% chance of some type of beer

20% chance of a bottle of alchohol (gin, rum, tequila, vodka, or whiskey) (The percentages between these various bottles may vary, but further testing is needed to prove that)

1.5% chance of boxed wine

14% chance of an ice-cold fotie

These are approximate, and only took place in ONE non-combat square.


For future testing, of the bottles of alchohol (gin, rum, tequila, vodka, or whiskey) I got:


3 bottles of gin

1 bottle of rum

9 bottles of tequila

6 bottles of vodka

4 bottles of whiskey


By the way, sorry for the formatting, I don't know anything about internet coding.


Some data on booze chances.

Booze Amount %
Beer 275 63%
Fotie 67 15%
Base booze 69 16%
Advanced Cocktail 24 6%
Total 435

--TechSmurf 02:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Combining TechSmurf's data with 600 turns of my own data...

Booze Amount % Likely "Real" %
Beer 625 60.4% 60
Fotie 154 14.9% 15
Base 200 19.3% 20
Adv.C 56 5.4% 5
Total 1035 100.0%

--Hellion 02:48, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Deleted my dumb comments because this is an old version :-P --Josmul123 22:08, 23 September 2011 (CEST)