Talk:The Thing with No Name

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That's a no go on fullness, I just got 2 nogs and a manifesto with totally clear fullness/drunkenness. I didn't complete the quest very quickly (66adv) either. --Lord Kes 16:40, 22 June 2012 (CEST)

Has anyone tried using varying levels of fullness/drunkeness? I'm at 14 full and 16 drunk and got a hamhock and Thorax book. Maybe having 0 fullness increases consumible drops? ----Groshing 02:34, 15 June 2012 (CEST)

zero fullness, zero drunkeness, one eggnog, zero hamhocks, and the thorax book. So, clearly, zero fullness isn't what gets you more drops. I also had all the sauceror buffs and aspect of the twinkle-fairy; perhaps being unbuffed helps? For equipment, I was only at +8% item dr/ops, so that may also be a factor. (Took me three folios to get through, I think. I guess I should boost non-combats next time?)--Laa (talk) 09:34, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

I just got 3 hamhocks, an eggnog, and a manifesto to drop from him with only +35% item drop. I did finish the whole quest in only 8 adventures, though, so maybe that's a factor?--Ominousjackal 18:49, 11 May 2012 (CEST)

  • Perhaps...I did it in 7 adventures, and got 2 hamhocks and 1 eggnog (and ghost pinching quarterly). If drops are directly related to the brevity of the quest duration then perhaps free runaways don't count... --Fig bucket 21:38, 11 May 2012 (CEST)

He blocks combat items a la NS and bonerdagon and also appears to have damage reduction for combat, spell, and elemental attacks. However, his HP is something like 1500 rather than the 10,000 of the other bosses. I killed him by using a double-ice shard then funkslinging flaming feathers. --Reala 23:21, 3 January 2012 (CET)

I got 2 eggnog and a manifesto from him. Maybe it's 2 randomly picked food/booze. --Lostcalpolydude 23:16, 4 January 2012 (CET)

Between 861 and 1147 HP. I'll try and rememeber to use the dwarvish uniform next time.--Lotsofphil 23:56, 4 January 2012 (CET)

I got a single hamhock. --Starwed 02:41, 5 January 2012 (CET)

Fought with +801% items, 2 hamhocks, 1 book. Additionally, dwarvish war uniform says 234 defense, -1 attack with +10 ML, HP was 1013. Putting 1000 in the main page.--Lotsofphil 15:40, 5 January 2012 (CET)

Weapon of the Pastalord (tuned) worked slightly better than single-damage-component spells, presumably because each damage component is reduced separately. In any case, WotP did more damage than Fearful or Geyser. Got 2 green hamhocks with passives, Phat, goblin eyedrops, 37-lb spanglycrow, and +60% item drop worth of equipment (total +264.80% items). Was running -25% combats as well (5 sources). --Greycat 22:47, 5 January 2012 (CET)

Ok I just fought him and I am running +28 hot damage, +3 of all other elemental types, his damage reduction made my hot damage drop to 17 and the other types drop to 2. Also I had 1 hamhock and 1 eggnog running about 250%ish item drops. --Chunky_boo 04:42, 6 January 2012 (CET)

2 hamhocks and snitch's manifesto with -113% items.--Lotsofphil 20:11, 7 January 2012 (CET)

Jick mentioned on the radio that there is a trick to getting him to drop more consumables, and that it is obvious when you stop to think about it. The Thing with No Name represents Sloth, which makes me think that you get more drops the lazier you are... That is, the longer the fight takes. I've already killed the guy and don't intend to ascend anytime soon, so I can't test this. Can someone try extending a fight to over 25 rounds before killing him, and then see what happens? Another possibility might be to use relaxing skills on him. --Quine 21:03, 30 January 2012 (CET)

  • Very low initiative could be good for "sloth", too. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 22:18, 30 January 2012 (CET)
    • Or twiddling one's thumbs? That would be an interesting mechanic, and not something we normally check. --timrem 02:01, 31 January 2012 (CET)

People have reported getting two drops when taking 20+ rounds, so I don't think it's that -- though anyone is welcome to try prolonging the fight to 30 or 50 rounds... Initiative is a new idea that seems worth checking. --Starwed 22:34, 30 January 2012 (CET)

I just received 1 green eggnog and 2 green hamhocks (and a skillbook) from The Thing. I was running a 43-pound Kloop, some minor +item buffs (goblin eyedrops, phat loot), famweight buffs (leash, empathy & petting), no +ML, fusilli, mojo, tarrypin, and every passive skill. It took several rounds (wasn't counting) and included a mixture of combat attacks (boom box), geyser and funkslung divine blowouts. 'Dis-abled' was at 27 turns remaining. --Thumbtack 16:37, 8 February 2012 (CET)

  • Has ayone tested this with a very heavy Kloop? That might have something to do with it.--Erich 23:46, 8 February 2012 (CET)
  • My last 2 fights against the Thing have also ended with me getting 2 hamhocks and 1 green eggnog, perhaps it counts number of successful combats against it or maybe its related to ascension count? In all three cases I didn't bother buffing up in any meaningful way. --Thumbtack 20:50, 2 April 2012 (CEST)
    • We can discount this idea - I just received 2 green hamhocks and no eggnog. This time round I also did something I hadn't done previously which was to only use spells (3 snowclones, a thrown OPS and a few stringozzi) so maybe a variety of attack types helps? Also, is it also possible that eggnogs and ham hocks each have their own drop modifiers? (I have double the number of hocks to nogs and have never had more than 1 nog drop). --Thumbtack 01:05, 5 April 2012 (CEST)

I'e tried it two times now with mothers little helper (-1000% initiative) and have only gotten the 2 consumable drops and 1 skill book each time. If it's still related to sloth, id like to know what the combat round limit for the fight is, or if someone has beaten him in 1 round. --Darkwolf 02:05, 13 February 2012 (CET)

I thought about fighting laziness with speed, but no cigar. I had about +400% initiative and +220% item drops and I got 1 booze and 1 book. I couldn't defeat it in one turn, though. Also, I wonder if the boldened word in the round 1 text has any significance. ("He just sits!") --Theon 01:56, 26 February 2012 (CET)

  • Last ascension I killed him in one round with a flying fire fist(with tens of thousands of rounds of salanderity behind it), and I just got a book and a hamhock, so I don't think killing him in one round does anything interesting. I don't recall the precise mix of item buffs, but it would have been over +400 --Noskilz 00:37, 1 March 2012 (CET)

I'm not sure if this has been covered on the forum? But while most of the time I only get one of the food or the booze, this time I got one eggnog and three hamhocks. (And the Thorax's Codex.) And this time I was Level 13, because I'd been Boris until that time. My theory, thereby, is that "sloth" means "put it off" - the higher level you are, the more stuff you get. I didn't have much +items running, either - just a 15 lb pair of stomping boots, and most of the time I'd be running with a 20+ Kloop. That's just what I'm thinking, though. --Kadrin 17:46, 9 March 2012 (CET)

  • Doubtful. I've done it at various levels, from 13 to 15, and I've had both 1 and 2 drops at the time. I don't think it's dependent on level/mainstat. --Ruduen 17:05, 11 March 2012 (CET)

Does there seem to be any pattern to the book drops? I first got the Snitch's Manifesto, read it to perm it, and then the next time around I got the manifesto again. My third time I got the Thorax's book, and since I didn't learn my lesson the last time, read it for perming and the fourth time also was the Thorax book. The fifth book drop has been the Ghost Pinching Quarterly, but I also made a point of having the other two (unused) books in my inventory before the fight. Has anyone else experienced something similar?--Noskilz 02:02, 29 March 2012 (CEST)

Something a bit strange - a previous entry stated that Siphon Spirits caused the Thing to drop a Shot of the Living Dead whilst I just used it to gain a Green Giant. I altered the Data box from undead to demihuman just in case TPTB did a stealth change to its type.--Thumbtack 20:47, 2 April 2012 (CEST)

I am a level 33 sauceror and when I fought it I was running 230% meat and 98% items. 2 hamhocks and a manifesto dropped. --Lemon-claw 00:27, 3 April 2012 (CEST)

I tried fighting him with 3 adventures left and one turn of Dis Abled. I figured that if I was slothful and waited until the last minute to fight him, then I'd get more drops. I got the opposite: just one hamhock (and The Snitch's Manifesto). I guess that we could check the opposite -- like, if you have a ton of adventures or turns of Dis Abled, then you might get more drops? --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 02:16, 5 April 2012 (CEST)

Never mind. Fought him on my multi with 326 turns left and 47 turns of Dis Abled, and I got just one hamhock (and The Snitch's Manifesto again). There goes that idea. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 04:06, 5 April 2012 (CEST)

I decided to try a new tactic this time and fight each sub boss with something opposing their Sin - against the Thorax (Wrath) I healed myself (like the shadow), the Bat (Pride) got a hand mirror, the Pinch (Lust) got love songs, against the Thugs (Envy) I upped my +meat, Mammon (Greed) got +item, the Snitch (Gluttony) had to make do with my 25 fullness and The Thing had to face me wearing a load of -init. items incl. the antique outfit. Unsurprisingly I only managed to gain 2 hamhocks and no eggnogs, but it might be a path worth pursuing in case there are items or effects that work specially (just like the Tower monsters). --Thumbtack 22:11, 7 April 2012 (CEST)

I tried fighting him at rollover+30 minutes, and I got one hamhock and one eggnog. The idea was that if you fight him bright and early in the day, then you're not putting off fighting him, so you're being less slothful and thus should get more loot. There goes that idea. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 06:24, 2 May 2012 (CEST)

I just got 2 hamhock and 2 eggnog. The only notable thing, in my mind, is that I only used 1 folio to do the whole set of bosses and The Thing. Seems to fit with people's take on the whole "slotfull" angle. Don't delay in killing him and you get more rewards?--Bladeyeoman 19:30, 3 May 2012 (CEST)

I just beat The Thing with only one folio, and I got two hamhocks. Bladeyeoman might be on to something. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 05:54, 5 May 2012 (CEST)

Just finished this sidequest, gained 1 eggnog, 1 hamhock and 1 tormenting plants skillbook. Used no specific tactic, simply had half my gear and familiar set to +items (190% on equip+effects, 29 lbs Xenomorph with fairy equip). Level 13 Pastamancer, used 3 folios, 4 adv left, 24 Dis Abled left. --RikAstley 20:25, 5 May 2012 (GMT)

Has anyone tried just having apathy as a buff? you can get it from a mr. mediocre bar --Uzziah 19:02, 8 May 2012 (CEST)

  • I tried this (covering every turn spent up to the Thing) and just got 2 nogs. --Thumbtack 02:17, 10 May 2012 (CEST)

I don't have the numbers down exactly but I'm pretty sure it's in the vicinity, x>19=4 drops, 20-30=3 drops 31-45=2 drops 46<x=1 drop. Additionally the order you do the bosses indicate what items you get. If I do them in order; Grove, Lover, Jerks I get 3 Hamhocks and 1 eggnog. Doing them in order one boss at a time; Grove, Lover, Jerks, Grove, Lover, Jerks, I got 3 eggnogs and 1 hamhock. I've always done the boss listed on top first. --Robi207 04:13, 15 May 2012 (CEST)

Today I spent 29 turns (using a few poppers at the end to ensure I used only 1 folio) and got 2 eggnogs, 1 hamhock and a Ghost Pinching Quarterly. A couple of weeks ago, a multi spent over 70 turns and had 2 hamhocks and a skill book drop (can't remember which book.) --Ercassendil 23:14, 20 May 2012 (CEST)

Seems like I get more consumables the longer the fight lasts, with just 1 dropping if it ends >10 rounds, 2 for 11-20, then 3 for 21-29. This has all happened when using 2 folios (With 1 try at using just 1 folio, still ended up with 3 drops) --BlanketThief 00:46, 24 May 2012 (CEST)

Got two eggnogs, no hamhocks {and a snitch book, but that's irrelevant}. I'm prety sure I used two folios, with 10 of Dis turns left now. Has anyone tried simply modifying strictly food drops rates or stricctly drink drop rates? MatrixM 12:52, 6 June 2012 (CEST)

Two ascensions in a row now I've finished Dis in under 1 folio and gotten four consumables from the Thing. I'm pretty sure that this is just a matter of finishing faster to get more items. --Diabolico 11:04, 6 July 2012 (CEST)

finished this in 48 adventures and got only 2 consumables. MatrixM (talk) 20:11, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

40 adventures, 2 consumables. MatrixM (talk) 18:00, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I have twice defeated The Thing With no Name as the 50th combat and received only 2 consumables each time. Skullrock (talk) 03:01, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

I defeated it with 250.9% item and got 1 green eggnog and 1 Ghost Pinching Quarterly. Didn't track how many adventures I spent to get here, but it was a lot as I did multiple bounties in Clumsiness Grove. --Tiny Plastic Andalite (talk) 14:58, 12 February 2021 (UTC)


Went in with 92/92/164 stats and got (with Dwarvish War Uniform) 200atk 225def. Went in with 39/25/39 and got the same. --Raijinili 22:42, 10 May 2012 (CEST)


I was able to complete it in 9 combats* thanks to Macrometeorite, and I got 5 glasses of green eggnog. Looks like there's another tier. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 20:14, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

*Slimmed-down log:

  1. Grove: random mob, random mob, noncom, noncom, mob that I MMed into the boss, noncom, mob that I MMed into the boss
  2. Maelstrom: noncom, noncom, mob that I MMed into the boss, random mob, noncom, mob that I MMed into the boss
  3. Glacier: noncom, noncom, mob that I MMed into the boss, noncom, mob that I MMed into the boss
  4. Thing with No Name.

--Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 20:19, 18 August 2017 (UTC)