Talk:The Icy Peak

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I need help completeing the penguin mafia adventures, if possible. I've been trying to guess the pics I don't have -

Penguin Thug was http://images.kingdomofloathing.com/adventureimages/pengthug.gif
Penguin Pasta Chef was http://images.kingdomofloathing.com/adventureimages/pengchef.gif
Penguin Soprano was ? (it's not pengsopr.gif, I tried) ;-)

--JRSiebz 16:40, 17 Sep 2005 (Central Daylight Time)

Why is the Encino Penguin adventure being reverted? --Blahquabats 00:17, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

  • Because poopoopoo is a jackass. --Deadgoat 00:19, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

Now, is it really necessary to have all the old adventures here, when they're also listed at the Past Peak? The sign adventure and that other one should probably stay here, I suppose. Also, can we at least get some idea of what that ? adventure does? Item drops, something? It's sort of pointless to have otherwise... --Zarr 19:19, 30 November 2005 (Central Standard Time)

I think that it's just to waste your adventure. Because, y'know, people thought that farming the peak was the most efficient per-adventure, and then it wasn't. Raijinili 16:01, 17 April 2006 (CDT)

According to Coldfront, there is supoesed to be a special adventure here if you are wearing the hippy disguise. does anyone know anything about it? --Datadrain 17:53, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

How much cold resistance?

How much cold resistance is needed for here? Holler 02:43, 31 July 2006 (CDT)

  • any cold resistance will do.--Thraden 06:08, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
    • So I could just cast Elemental Saucesphere on myself and then adventure there without any more cold resistance?--Aznpride05 18:27, 11 September 2006 (CDT)

Someone add this, Upgraded Ram drops Ram's Face Ale. Desription: This is a bottle of delicious ale bottled by the Ram's Face Brewery in Distant Lands. The label reads "Drinking this delicious bottom-fermented ale is like getting butted in the face by a ram." Huh huh. It said both "bottom" and "butt."

Type: booze Selling Price: 55 Meat.

Drinking Message: You drink the bottle of Ram's Face Ale and then break the bottle over your forehead when you're done. Booyah! Adventures You gain 2 Adventures. You gain 9 Strongness. You gain 1 Drunkenness.

Snow Queen

I believe she is resistant to physical damage and vulnerable to at least spooky. If this is the case then easy farming is officially over.--SomeStranger (t|c) 23:54, 29 August 2006 (CDT)

  • Well at least for the moment if you had less than 1 million meat on your person and don't any rares to liquidate you now will be poor for a very long time.--Practitioner of Saucy Arts 00:08, 30 August 2006 (CDT)
    • I don't know about that; my Sauceror, with a lot of Spell Damage boosters and a Codex, my Saucaeror regularly hits her for over 90 damage ... and was able to do so as early as 9th level. That's a one-hit-kill; currently, with the Travoltan Trousers, I almost always get initiative, too. If possible, I'd gladly LIVE on Turkish Delight when playing a MYST class.--Bork 06:05, 17 September 2006 (CDT)
  • Not true, really, equip the ninja hot pants and they do +8 fire damage. Allows you to kill her in about 7 hits.--Thekmt 01:06, 30 August 2006 (CDT)
  • She's also vulnerable to Hot damage. Can anyone think of a skill that most characters have that does Hot damage? --Baltar 01:41, 30 August 2006 (CDT)
  • Chronic Indigestion? Pthalo 10:42, 30 August 2006 (CDT)
  • No good to those on no-food paths unless they've spent a run perming that skill (and still not much good if you can't be full). And for non-Moxie classes, Peak farming except at high levels depended on getting the jump and talking them out in 1 hit. The Peak's 100% nerfed. NoodleHannah 07:56, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
  • It seems that the Snow Queen hit me once even at 207 moxie. I had no monster level extras. --Kenny 14:15, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
  • Are those hits criticals? --Icecube 14:19, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
  • She's still hitting me once in a while at 248 Moxie. No monster boosts, not critical hits. --Iason 12:16, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
    • What are the exact hit messages? It's possible that the critical hit message on Snow Queen is incorrect, especially since the Icy Peak upgrade came at the same time as monster critical hits. --Quietust 13:08, 14 September 2006 (CDT)
  • I'm a level 14 pastamancer with no skills on and a moxie of 116 and she can't hit me, except with critical, so I think the moxie for no hit is lower than 116, but, when I lower it to 112, she can hit me now without critical.--Toodles 17:54, 30 January 2007 (CST)

Knott Yeti

The Knott Yeti might be a higher level now. I was taking damage with buffed moxie at 127 with no +monster level. --MicheleColeman 00:44, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

  • Most likely just the new monster criticals and fumbles which allow a monster to hit you occassionally when it normally can't or miss occassionally when it normally shouldn't.--Practitioner of Saucy Arts 00:45, 30 August 2006 (CDT)
  • The Yeti doesn't seem to drop Penguin Skins anymore. 170 turns--Tara Phinstashun 06:40, 30 August 2006 (CDT)
  • the same for me, no Penguin Skins... --Kaiou 08:24, 30 August 2006 (CDT)
  • Yep, over 300 adventures there and not a single penguin skin. Is it safe to assume that it is no longer dropped? I already edited most pages to say so. --Icecube 11:41, 30 August 2006 (CDT)
  • Well I have base moxie 162 and buff to make 168. Even though my moxie is that high anything can hit me in the peak,Ice Queen, Ram and Yeti.So that means that the monsters in the peak are level up. --Karoly
  • It's not that they are really that leveled up, it's just the critical hits can still hit. I do not know if there's a point where you can always avoid criticals, but even at 400+ moxie, the criticals hit me. --Icecube 11:32, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
    • I believe criticals simply "always hit", period, end of story.--Bork 06:06, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

Possible new recipes?

doesn't anyone think it is possible that we got some new recipes with those new items? Someone should try finding them. Zigota Lt 09:03, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

No longer the main farming area?

Dunno if this place is the best farming area now. Could someone clarify this? --RedKlonoa 21:09, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

  • An early test comparison on the forum was showing the castle in the clouds while autoselling the items was better, though no one has done anything exhaustive to discover the new best farming zone yet. Some theorize this move might make NPZRing with a stasis styled strategedy vs high ML monsters more rewarding. Take all that at face value.--Practitioner of Saucy Arts 23:27, 30 August 2006 (CDT)

Encounter and Drop Rate data

I ran 3 sets of adventures here to test the combat vs. non-combat rate, and to see whether I could eliminate non-combats entirely. It seems I can.

Session 1
Encounter Modifiers: Confrontation
 a Knott Yeti     65 / 200
 a Snow Queen     45 / 200
 an upgraded ram  68 / 200
 Avalanche!        8 / 200
 eXtremely Lost    8 / 200
 The Source        6 / 200
 -------------------------
 Total combat:   178 / 200 (89%)
 Total noncom:    22 / 200 (11%)

Session 2
Encounter Modifiers: Confrontation + Monster Bait
 a Knott Yeti     92 / 250
 a Snow Queen     46 / 250
 an upgraded ram  97 / 250
 Avalanche!        5 / 250
 eXtremely Lost    6 / 250
 The Source        4 / 250
 -------------------------
 Total combat:   235 / 250 (94%)
 Total noncom:    15 / 250 (6%)

Session 3
Encounter Modifiers: Confrontation + Monster Bait + Hippy Stench
 a Knott Yeti     89 / 250
 a Snow Queen     60 / 250
 an upgraded ram 101 / 250
 -------------------------
 Total combat:   250 / 250 (100%)

So, it seems that the base combat rate is 85% in this area; or 90% with one +combat, or 95% with two, or 100% with three or four.

My sleazy gravy fairy was full-grown by the end of the second set, so I also noted the item drops from the third session. This was with a total item drop modifier of +232.5% (which means 3.325 times the base rate):

 89 yetis:
   89 yeti fur                      (100%, maxed)
 60 snow queens:
   56 crazy little turkish delight   (93%)
   14 snow queen crown               (23%)
    6 ga-ga radio                    (10%)
 101 upgraded rams:
  100 ram's face lager               (99%)
   21 ram horns                      (21%)
   16 ram sticks                     (16%)

The sample sizes are too low to conclude much about the lowest-drop-rate items, but the Ram's Face Lager is looking like 30% to me (which would be a 99.75% drop rate with the equipment I was using -- and I got 100 out of 101). The turkish delight is probably somewhere around 25-27%. --Greycat 15:14, 6 September 2006 (CDT)


Wanted to add some results with no encounter rate modifiers, try to figure out the exact rate of encounter for each individual adventure... Does the wiki have a formatting standard for that?

Anyway, here's one day's data, I'll post more once I can get at my logs.

 a Knott Yeti		= 97	(34.76%)
 a Snow Queen		= 49	(18.14%)
 an upgraded ram	= 97	(34.76%)
 Avalanche!		= 7	(2.6%)
 EXtremely Lost		= 8	(2.9%)
 The Source		= 12	(4.4%)
 
 total			= 270

From just this it looks like the base encounter rate for Avalanche! and eXtremely Lost are only around 2.5%, but I thought Jick said he did everything by multiples of 5 only, so this could just be small sample size at work. --BrettDay 22:52, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

 a Knott Yeti		= 73	(37.8%)
 a Snow Queen		= 48	(24.8%)
 an upgraded ram	= 48	(24.8%)
 Avalanche!		= 8	(4.14%)
 EXtremely Lost		= 8	(4.14%)
 The Source		= 8	(4.14%)
 
 total			=193 

 a Knott Yeti		= 95	(35.05%)
 a Snow Queen		= 56	(20.66%)
 an upgraded ram	= 82	(30.25%)
 Avalanche!		= 14	(5.16%)
 EXtremely Lost		= 13	(4.79%)
 The Source		= 11	(4.06%)
 
 total			= 271

 a Knott Yeti		= 91	(32.73%)
 a Snow Queen		= 55	(19.78%)
 an upgraded ram	= 96	(34.53%)
 Avalanche!		= 16	(5.75%)
 EXtremely Lost		= 9	(3.24%)
 The Source		= 11	(3.96%)
 
 total			= 278


Mostly a pretty clear picture now, although I'm still not sure about eXtremely Lost and the Upgraded Ram. --BrettDay 03:43, 14 September 2006 (CDT)


Today's data

 a Knott Yeti		= 79	(32.64%)
 a Snow Queen		= 53	(21.9%)
 an upgraded ram	= 71	(29.34%)
 Avalanche!		= 14	(5.79%)
 EXtremely Lost		= 10	(4.13%)
 The Source		= 15	(6.2%)
 
 total			= 242

 a Knott Yeti		= 112	(32.09%)
 a Snow Queen		= 69	(19.77%)
 an upgraded ram	= 108	(30.95%)
 Avalanche!		= 22	(6.30%)
 EXtremely Lost		= 18	(5.16%)
 The Source		= 20	(5.73%)
 
 total			= 349

 a Knott Yeti		= 114	(31.75%)
 a Snow Queen		= 75	(20.89%)
 an upgraded ram	= 121	(33.70)
 Avalanche!		= 18	(5.01%)
 EXtremely Lost		= 18	(5.01%)
 The Source		= 17	(4.74%)
 
 total			= 359


 GRAND TOTALS
 a Knott Yeti		= 661	(33.62%)
 a Snow Queen		= 405	(20.6%)
 an upgraded ram	= 623	(31.69%)
 Avalanche!		= 99	(5.04%)
 EXtremely Lost		= 84	(4.27%)
 The Source		= 94	(4.78%)
 
 total			= 1966


And with nearly 2000 turns in this, I'm happy with the accuracy of the results and ready to call it a day. Next question is, is there a standard template to add this to the Icy Peak main page? --BrettDay 04:45, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

I reckon there should be a way to include the "Encounter Frequency" for every standard (ie. not clover, not one-time) encounter.--Jubbers 16:45, 22 September 2006 (CDT)


Trailing Yetis in the Icy Peak with supposedly +15% combats on a level 32 Disco Bandit.
should have 0% non-combats. Apparently something's wonky. More on this later.
Theories:
1. It's been proposed that Disco Bandits have an innate -% combats
2. Monster Bait, Carlweather's Cantata, or Hippy Stench might not be working like we think.
3. Icy Peak may not have 85% noncombats...

1660 Adventures
1521 Adventures with On The Trail
Encounter name                          No Trail  Percentage  On The Trail Percentage
Avalanche!                              3         2.16        26           1.71      
Knott Yeti                              39        28.06       1167         76.73     
Snow Queen                              33        23.74       113          7.43      
The Source                              5         3.60        18           1.18      
eXtremely Lost                          4         2.88        20           1.31      
upgraded ram                            55        39.57       177          11.64    

A small note: On The Trail does not increase combat frequency, it just seems that way due to the small sample size of the untrailed data, and something strange altogether occurring here. --MindlessGames 01:35, 22 March 2008 (CDT)

New Adventure?

I was running a set of Icy Peak adventures through KoLMafia and on my first one (apparently noncombat) I received 5,000 meat and 5 yeti furs. I do not believe I had a clover. I hadn't gotten any in awhile, and the loss of one was not registered. Has anyone else noticed this? I did another 100 turns or so through the regular interface and they were all normal. --- rholliday 04:29, 1 October 2006 (CDT)

  • 5000 meat and 5 yeti furs is the reward for completing the Mt. McLargeHuge Quest. In order to unlock the Icy Peak for you to adventure in, the bot had to perform the prerequisite step of completing this quest for you, which gave you the reward. --Jonrock 04:34, 1 October 2006 (CDT)

snow queen hp?

yeah, i just recentl;y started fighting the snow queen - she definitaly does not have 70 hp.. i did a cone of smelly dogs that dealt 80 damage stench, and she's still alive. :p in the end. most likely weird. but i dealth a total of 174 damage. combining the stench damage. and she finally died... any one else? --Argus 20:31, 8 February 2007 (CST)

Did you have +ML? --Raijinili 02:22, 11 February 2007 (CST)

There's a full discussion for it on her page, if you doubt me, but she does indeed have 70 or so HP. I beat her in 10 turns of 7 damage, with no +ML. Check your equipment, effects, and Canadia for those.--Gils 15:38, 4 May 2007 (CDT)


Something seems to have changed - the monsters all have 1 hp now; something to do with the current event?--Sednanalien 10:47, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

  • Just tried, and nothing has changed---definitely much more than 1 hp. Are you perchance maximizing non-combats, wearing the Space Trip safety headphones? --Fig bucket 12:10, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Ah, that makes sense, thanks.--Sednanalien 12:29, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Avalanche

Avalanche statgains max out at 220. However that value is very misleading, since at high levels the stat gains will average 198, not 220. Most statgains follow this type of a formula, which is min(mainstat,88)*rand(2,2.5).--QuantumNightmare 01:21, 22 March 2008 (CDT)

do you guys think this is the best place to UR hunt? you can meat farm at the same time.--Demonblades 01:01, 22 July 2011 (CEST)