Talk:S'more

Eating 5 I got 1, 4,7,12, and 17 adventures from them. Obviously, the adventure gain increases with how many you eat. (Presumably resets at rollover.) --Starwed 05:29, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

• i guess there must be an adventure cap. eating eleven would be ridiculous. --Evilkolbot 06:02, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
• Well, if someone's got Stomach of Steel, we could test it out, you'd have enough fullness for 11, plus a couple left over. Even without SoS, that's still 10... --Jimfromtx 06:22, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

According to stupac2, the fullness starts at 1 and increases by one for every s'more you eat. --Starwed 10:20, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

• Ate 5 each on two different characters, got the exact same numbers (1, 4, 7, 12, 17) each time. Currently resisting the urge to buy a spice melange so I can eat a sixth. --Johnny Treehugger 14:32, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
• Same here. 1,4,7,12,17,24,31, 39, 47, 57, 67, 78, 90, 102, 115 seen twice. 128, 143, 158 seen once. One of the characters has Stomach of Steel, so we'll see about 16 and up, hopefully.--Lotsofphil 14:36, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
• I ran the known numbers through various regressions on SPSS and put the results here, if anybody's curious as to what they'd look like: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AsKtQkfz6x48dGpKbWpac3NTWWxENUNGdFcxX1BtRVE&hl=en&authkey=CJvG3JUD --Aoi 00:44, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
I don't think that sort of analysis will get you very far, because even if there is a formula, it involves rounding. The first several points satisfy the formula floor(n[1+0.5n]), but it shifts at n=8. --Starwed 00:52, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
• A multi ate 5 s'mores: 1,4,7,12,17 adv. Then it ascended. Then it ate 5 s'mores: 1,4,7,12,17 adv.--Lotsofphil 21:51, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

• given that the fullness increases by 1, on FOB you can eat seven and with stomach and a melange eight. wild guessing, i'd say the return deltas of 3,3,5,5 suggest this will continue 7,7,9. which gives 24, 31, 40, for a hard total of 136. stunty but not EPIC. --Evilkolbot 19:49, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
• So how does the scaling interact with the the gluttonous green ghost? --Zourath 04:37, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

The ghost won't eat the s'mores. There's no "give to ghost" link next to it. --Lemon-claw 01:20, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

I just tried "force feeding" it to the ghost via url manipulation and it said "Invald Item". --Lemon-claw 01:33, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Stupid laptop keyboard, that comment was supposed to say "Ha ha, I'm a day ahead of everyone, I'm gonna get the 'Eat a 35 Fullness s'more" trophy first". --Johnny Treehugger 13:21, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Consumable Modifiers

I just confirmed that the s'more responds to munchies, milk, and salad fork. So the table on the main page is correct :-) --RoyalTonberry 18:16, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Formula

I think the formula is ceiling(n^1.75) where n is the current s'more number being eaten this ascension (1 for the first, 2 for the second, etc). This formula fits all current data points perfectly, and is simple enough, with a clean enough exponent, to be believable. This would predict that 18 = 158, 19 = 173, and 20 = 190 --RoyalTonberry 06:16, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Also, here's a table expanding all the modifiers out, given the above formula. I'm not entirely convinced how useful anything beyond 20 is, but oh well. --RoyalTonberry 06:31, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

fork
Munchies
and
Milk
Munchies
and
Milk
and
fork
Munchies,
Milk,
and
fork
1 1 4 2 2 5 6 3 7
2 4 6 6 6 8 8 8 10
3 7 8 10 10 11 11 13 14
4 12 13 16 16 17 17 20 21
5 17 18 22 23 23 24 28 29
6 24 25 30 32 31 33 38 39
7 31 32 38 41 39 42 48 49
8 39 40 47 51 48 52 59 60
9 47 48 56 62 57 63 71 72
10 57 58 67 75 68 76 85 86
11 67 68 78 88 79 89 99 100
12 78 79 90 102 91 103 114 115
13 90 91 103 117 104 119 130 132
14 102 103 116 133 117 134 147 148
15 115 116 130 150 131 151 165 166
16 128 129 144 167 145 168 183 184
17 143 144 160 186 161 188 203 205
18 158 159 176 206 177 207 224 225
19 173 174 192 225 193 227 244 246
20 190 191 210 247 211 249 267 269
21 207 208 228 270 229 271 291 292
22 224 225 246 292 247 293 314 315
23 242 243 265 315 266 316 338 339
24 261 262 285 340 286 341 364 365
25 280 281 305 364 306 366 389 391
26 300 301 326 390 327 392 416 418
27 320 321 347 416 348 418 443 445
28 341 342 369 444 370 445 472 473
29 363 364 392 472 393 474 501 503
30 385 386 415 501 416 502 531 532
31 408 409 439 531 440 532 562 563
32 431 432 463 561 464 562 593 594
33 455 456 488 592 489 593 625 626
34 479 480 513 623 514 624 657 658
35 504 505 539 656 540 657 691 692

Just ate one on FoB. 228 adv with milk, so the table is right (of course).

Fulness cap

• Is there a maximum fullness? I notice the table only goes up to 18, without a ? row for 19. Does this mean that if I have stomache of steel that I can eat 1 s'more a day even after my 18th s'more, or will I then only be able to eat them on FoB (or from Quantum Taco), and from FoB they will eventually get too high? What if I don't have SoS (which I don't) - will they then cap at 15 s'mores (not counting FoB) each ascension? --DanielH 16:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
• Sorry, forgot to sign --DanielH 16:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
• I should check my comments before making them - I saw the page yesterday but couldn't sign in at the moment. Now it does go to 19 but not above. Has 19 been confirmed? How? --DanielH 16:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I don't quite understand your question -- every time you eat one, the fullness of the next one increases by 1. All the normal rules apply for eating food, so if you have enough stomach left, you can eat it, and if you don't, you can't. Yes, this means that you need increased stomach capacity to eat more than 15 s'mores in a single ascension. --Starwed 16:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I assume he wonders if a 21 fullness s'more actually exists. It requires FoB to check this, and no one's gotten to 20 just yet (should happen tomorrow). And it'll take something like 4 years for a non-ascending character with stomach of steel to consume a 35 fullness s'more. At least that's what RT told me. --Flargen 17:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm assuming s'mores are blacklisted from quantum tacos, otherwise, assuming no limit (which I think there isn't) it could get out of hand. --Turing 17:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes, that seems very likely, seeing as we had seen popcorn and chaos popcorn from the quantum taco before anyone had the popcorn recipe, but no one has seen a s'more. --Flargen 17:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
• Since the counter is not reset, I'm gonna say the theoretical max is 37 (Stomach + Gluttony + Feast of Boris), and once you eat that one, no more s'mores for you. --Turing 18:00, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
• You can't get both Stomach of Steel and gluttony. --Flargen 18:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
• Oh, right! Silly me. --Turing 19:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

that's one pig of a trophy. --Evilkolbot 19:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, I've confirmed the values up to 20, and I'm likely to ascend before next FoB, so I won't be able to confirm 21+. I'd say it's safe to add 21-35 if people want. The table looks pretty busy as it is, I don't really think we need all the extra columns, but if people like them, we should add Munchies + Fork since it's bothering me that it's the only combination not there. --Johnny Treehugger 11:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

• Munchies + Fork is actually something that has come up before, and the last time it came up, I gave the same reply: I don't think it's worthwhile to have Munchies + Fork, since I don't think there's any realistic scenario where someone would use munchies + fork and not use Milk (though, admittedly, that was before the Milk change which uses turns of the buff). --RoyalTonberry 01:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
• Then why the "fork only" column? Who uses a fork without using milk? --Flargen 01:31, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
• Huh, I'll bet my reasoning at the time was to just have the base modifiers as a row by themselves. *shrug* If it's not useful, we could remove it. --RoyalTonberry 02:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Distention pill

This can both speed up s'more consumption and increase maximum s'more-ness. By one. Just thought to point that out. --Raijinili 01:21, 10 January 2012 (CET)

• nope.avi. as Gemelli has answered for me, distention pills work by reducing the fullness amount of the next object you consume, buy ONLY IF you were able to eat it in the first place. ergo, no 36th s'more, and sadly, no s'more combo reduced by 1 is useful. (1+2+3+4+5-1=14, no powerful 1-fullness item, 6+7=13, fits quantaco, 7+8=15, again no powerful 1-fullness item, etc.)--The ErosionSeeker 01:35, 10 January 2012 (CET)
• hmm. if you started your day with a dp and a nine fullness s'more, you could melange and eat the ten one. similarly, on fob with stomach you could do nineteen and twenty. but yes, you're right, the numbers are awkward. --Evilkolbot 12:40, 10 January 2012 (CET)
• For comboing, say that I'm on day 1 of Stomach of Steel s'more-eating. I can eat distend and eat one, and then eat five more (21 total fullness). This also works for any combination with Pride (though how useful would that be?). For the other, how long ago did Gemelli say that? See distention pill#History.
• Edit: Actually, Distention Pill + Stomach of Steel (the only way to get 35 in the first place) has the following daily eating plan:
1. 21 = 1 2 3 4 5 6 (dp1)
2. 24 = 7 8 9 (dp1, melange3)
3. 21 = 10 11 (dp1)
4. 39 = 12 13 14 (melange3, dp1, FoB15)
5. (and on) one a day
• --Raijinili 07:43, 11 January 2012 (CET)
• When first introduced, in order for the pill to take proper effect, there had to be enough room in your stomach for the next thing you ingested; you could not eat until fullness, take the pill, and then ingest a 1 fullness item. This is no longer true.
• 36-fullness s'more! yay! although, why are still reporting the old behaviour? --Evilkolbot 13:58, 13 January 2012 (CET)
• People will remember it being one way and then see nothing on the wiki about it and assume it's an oversight, and then go to "fix" it. --Raijinili 11:33, 17 January 2012 (CET)

goodbye 36

CD Moyer fixed it. a distention pill no longer reduces the fullness of the next thing you eat. so no more 36 fullness s'more. or did miss something? --Evilkolbot (talk) 20:34, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Huh? Distension Pill currently works by simply adding +1 stomach capacity right? So that works fine with getting a 36 fullness s'more with SoS and Legendary Appetite. Of course, the question now is how many s'mores can you eat with SoS, Legendary Appetite, distention pill AND Pantsgiving (with N tattered scraps).... --Darkcodelagsniper (talk) 20:56, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

pantsgiving isn't relevant since you have to be at full for it to kick in. --Evilkolbot (talk) 21:00, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

faster still

• it's not something i could do, but wouldn't day one stomach mean that you could get to 36 in three FOBs? and, while we're talking stunty, chained casuals mean you could finish off the last six in a single day. but if you're chaining casuals why not do it all in a single day anyway? --Evilkolbot 08:36, 19 October 2012 (CEST)
• no, it wouldn't, you knucklehead. the lasagna is five, so although you can chain to thirty-one in a single fob you'll have to do the rest one at a time. duh. --Evilkolbot 23:52, 22 October 2012 (CEST)
• resets on ascension, mr "reading comprehension fail." --Evilkolbot 00:14, 23 October 2012 (CEST)