Talk:Robotronic egg

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I just got 2 from a goose-a-laying.--Wylin 22:14, 17 December 2007 (CST)

Trying to combine this with the Spooky-Gro fertilizer does nothing. Wahhhhh.--GoldS 22:20, 17 December 2007 (CST)

Dammit, you guys! I spent a whole bunch of effort adding new messages and reformatting the page-- and then, each time I tried to submit, someone else had added something new, and by the time I'd reincorporated that new idea, someone else had edited it. Man, remind me not to try to format pages during the content rush. ;) --Southwest 22:50, 17 December 2007 (CST)


ref: All that Glitters is gold, and the goose that laid the golden eggs. --El taco 23:18, 17 December 2007 (CST)


I used roughly 29 of them and didn't receive any Deactivated RoboGeese.--Creamy 23:32, 17 December 2007 (CST)

I used 101 of them and did not get the deactivated goose. I suspect fowl play.--Dandandandan 00:15, 18 December 2007 (CST)

I got mine on my 4th egg O_O Guess I just got a bit of RNG love for once...--Sir Spanky 07:33, 18 December 2007 (CST)

I'm not sure what the percentage should be. I got a deactivated robogoose on my very first try, which is surprising given the other reports here. -- Tanstaafl 07:37, 18 December 2007 (CST)

  • Just bragging, perhaps, but I also got mine on the first try. --Neminem 00:14, 19 December 2007 (CST)

I used 11 and got mostly poison results, one heal, one player harm and a couple hurt opponent, no goose. I know someone else who got a goose on their 11th egg as well.--Ketaped 10:53, 18 December 2007 (CST)

I've used approx. 80 eggs so far mainly heals and poison but no goose. I had a theory i tested since alot of the text around this egg talks about gold , i used a golden ring and R.Egg at same time but to no avail, anyone have any other ideas of boosting familiar % rate?--Wilbemine 11:10, 18 December 2007 (CST)

Used 225 today to no avail. I'm severely disheartened, as that amount could have been used to purchase the Crimbo P. R. E. S. S. I. E. --Perillion 01:20, 20 December 2007 (CST)

I got it on my first try overall. That try was against the Geese-A-Laying, if that's any help, and I'm an unascended 18th Level Accordion Thief, which I seriously doubt means anything (except possibly the unascended part).--Drothar 13:31, 21 December 2007 (CST)

Statistics

I used 137 eggs (Yay Pickpocket!); here are the results.

Outcome Count Observed range
Healed 41 67-85 odd only
Damaged enemy 21 62-78 even only
Poached player 31 15-20
Poison 24 N/A
Daze 20 N/A
GOOSE! 0 :(

If there was a 1% chance of a robogoose with each egg, there's still about a 25% chance of not getting one in 137 tries. Still, I wonder if there's some other condition (such as which monster you're fighting) in order to get the robogoose. --Starwed 00:54, 18 December 2007 (CST)

It took me in the region of 50 eggs to get mine... took bumblebea about 5 if I remember.

Whether it's relevant or not, I didn't get anywhere using them on the robogoose, the rings or the killing birds, it was the hen that I finally got one hatched with. Which is kinda logical I guess :) --Denarius 12:14, 18 December 2007 (CST)

I was used one or more (usually more) on each of the current borg monsters, and got one RIGHT after using the egg on a hen after it missed with the "It whips out a flamethrower and tries to cook your goose, but you don't have a goose.". Could be the message, could be the Hen, could be the fact that I used 200 on the borg a-beeping, or could be something else. --Meh 64 12 01:27, 23 December 2007 (CST)

Against a senile lihc, it took me exactly 47 eggs to get the familar. --VGK 03:07, 18 December 2007 (CST)

  • Not* bragging, just a note... I got it on exactly my first try. Immediately after lecturing a friend on how hard they are to get. O_O --Rikmach 00:39, 19 December 2007 (CST)

Took me 46 eggs. --DVuser.giffile_icon.gifmail_icon.giflink_icon.gif 01:36, 19 December 2007 (CST)

Took me about 30 eggs. --Brightbutt The Defenestrator 04:16, 19 December 2007 (CST)

Got it on my 10th egg --Azrane 04:33, 19 December 2007 (CST)

10 for me. I was double funkslinging. --Kazim 10:37, 19 December 2007 (CST)

On the account I got it, 1st egg. 6th egg overall--VlaxanV 10:43, 19 December 2007 (CST).

Got mine on the 51st egg. --Zanelron 22:38, 19 December 2007 (CST)

I had 26 eggs, and got my goose on the 12th. I've got 19 ascensions. Squiffle 23:05, 19 December 2007 (CST)


Has anyone gotten a second robogoose yet? I used twenty to thirty eggs to get mine, and I've been selling all the eggs since, but a couple of weeks from now I'll want a robogoose for the display case, if I can get one. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 13:13, 21 December 2007 (CST)

  • I was wondering the same thing, cuz I've spent a fortune in buying eggs and haven't got a second. The first took maybe 40 or 60, I forget. --Tingly 09:41, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
    • I also tried to get a second robogoose for my dc. Last ascension I used maybe 50 eggs and this one I wasted another 120(ish) so I'm giving up on it. AltaZorn (#1215777) seems the only player that has more than one (5 in fact) deactivated RoboGoose in his dc. Maybe you can't get more once you've put one into your terrarium. --Yatsufusa 18:22, 1 August 2011 (CEST)


I get one on the 56 (maybe 57). I was a lv 25 SC, with 27 ascensions, and no special buff. I used it on a Grandfather ghost in the basement lv 66. --Nord 10:34, 27 December 2007 (CST)

It seems it might be possible to own more than 1 deactivated robogoose, someone in the chat channel says he has 3 of them but doesnt know what to do with them. The player is mike2020, i wanted to ask him to display it in his display case or something but he says he doesnt like to display his items, infact he has no display case.--TehChozenOne 02:41, 5 January 2008 (CST)

I've used somewhere between 150-200. Still no goose. Edit: got it at roughly 190-240 Bjk2007 02:00, 24 February 2008 (CST)

Semi-rare?

Has anyone looked for a correlation between semi-rare adventures and getting the goose? --Sinic 07:04, 19 December 2007 (CST)

I have. Used 10 eggs on the adventure before my semi-rare, on my semi-rare, and after my semi-rare. I have yet to be goosed. I also ate my first broiled pear and used a vitochocowhatever thingy before using the egg. And tried using an egg with a clover in inventory. So far I'm 0 for about 150 eggs.--[Barbarian] 10:02, 19 December (EST)

I got it on my first try today! and i used 11 yesterday. :D --Shualdon 10:10, 19 December 2007 (CST)

  • it seems that the people who are reporting very low numbers of eggs also have few ascensions. 1/n, anyone? --Evilkolbot 17:29, 19 December 2007 (CST)
    • A friend of mine that has around 16 softcore ascensions and 4 or 5 hardcore ascensions who's currently in Bad Moon got a goose on the second egg (I was physically present watching him play). So I don't think it's quite that simple, if it's like that at all. Bakapyrite 18:25, 19 December 2007 (CST)

Never ascended, 90 eggs already and no goose. EDIT: 126 now, and finally got it. --Shademaster00 17:46, 19 December 2007 (CST)

Has anyone been stupid enough to terrarium a goose in bad-moon? --El taco 23:21, 19 December 2007 (CST)

  • Uh, why would that be a problem? Bad Moon still lets you put most non-Mr. Store familiars into your terrarium just fine. --Itsatrap 23:28, 19 December 2007 (CST)
  • You won't lose it. --Missingno 03:41, 23 December 2007 (CST)

Just a Thought

A thought just occurred to me. An awful lot of people report getting one in very little (which seems unlikely to be just luck), while others, myself included, had to use a lot more. What if the drop chance is dependent on how many RoboGeese have already been found/made? So the people who got it initially had it easier, and the drop chance is getting rarer with every goose. EDIT: To clarify, when I say "drop chance", I don't mean the chance of getting an egg. I mean getting a goose from an egg. --Shademaster00 20:43, 19 December 2007 (CST)

This doesn't seem to be the case, as there were people very early on reporting using dozens of eggs with no geese and other people at the same time getting them in under 10. It may just be that there's a random number determined for each player, or possibly each ascension, and that number must be reached before the goose hatches. Considering that the geese themselves can't be traded or gifted, it seems a pretty good way to siphon money out of the Kingdom, at least in the short term. Long term, it does encourage player co-operation, which seems to be something that the devs are pushing for with the new content. On another note -- do we have any reports of one person managing to hatch more than one goose? Or do they stop dropping babies once you get your first? If they don't, people are going to theoretically end up with a lot of deactivated robogeese.--Ketaped 22:21, 19 December 2007 (CST)

How would meat be siphoned out of the kingdom? The only meat spent is through the mall for eggs - which goes to another player. --Aprocalypse 01:39, 20 December 2007 (CST)

A thought occurs to me. Perhaps the chance of a goose is calculated by your level. I used all 225 of mine at level 18... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Perillion (talkcontribs) on 07:48 GMT, 20 December 2007

  • It took me approx 10 eggs as a level 20 DB. Whew!ColtsScore 04:23, 23 December 2007 (CST)

Is it possible to NOT get the familiar using the egg against the goose itself? I've used I don't know how many (nearly 60?) so far and nothing yet, but I've only used the eggs on the geese and rings at the moment. --Doomsday Forte 17:16, 20 December 2007 (CST)

  • Got it! Finally. Took around 90-100 eggs in total. The "pickpocket and run" strategy really helps all right. --Doomsday Forte 17:38, 20 December 2007 (CST)

I think you can only have one deactivated robogoose, period, regardless if you put said familiar hatchling into your closet or display case. So you can have either the activated robogoose or the deactivated robogoose, but not both.--Mike Antleg 14:00, 23 December 2007 (CST)

I got another idea from the description from the deactivated robogoose about being 'egg-ceptional'.I got it aroung my 60th eggs, the first 55 or so couldnt get, then i tried getting a few 'egg-' effects on me, used a yellow plastic oyster egg to get the 'egg-stra arm' and an off-white polka-dot to get 'egg-stra sensory perception' then after like 5 eggs i got it, but might just be coincidence?--TehChozenOne 21:13, 23 December 2007 (CST)

I adventured with a multi today and used 712 robotronic eggs, out of which I got 1 deactivated robogoose (somewhere around egg 150-200). No active effects, all Pastamancer skills (plus Liver of Steel and no others), level 32, adventuring in The Poop Deck, no robogoose familiar, no other relevant equipment.--Yiab 14:21, 13 January 2008 (CST)

Order of Effects

Is there a reason the effects are in the order they are currently in? I would think it would be more useful to put similar effects near each other: gain and lose HP, hurt enemy HP, poison, confusion. With the robogoose drop at the end of the list. Any reason not to do this? If the percentages aren't well balanced, it would be more useful to put the highly likely effects at the top and the least likely at the bottom, but that's only if people can get info on just how likely they are. Kilyle 18:07, 20 December 2007 (CST)


I dont't know about order but it might be based on what you need, I get healed more when I have low health and it poisons tougher units. Maybe its more likely to get one if you have a low level familiar or fewer familiars in you're terrarium. I've used between 100-200 and I'm equipping a level 30 familiar (total) as well as about 40 familiars in my terrarrium.--Thagorn 05:39, 24 December 2007 (CST)

EDIT: IT WORKED! Possibly coincidentally. I completely healed,took out a zero xp familiar and attacked a low level guy. The second egg was a goose.--Thagorn 06:08, 24 December 2007 (CST)

Possibly another coincidence, but the same approach just worked for me. Adventured in the Dire Warren while fully healed, went with a 0-kill, 0-exp familiar for the hell of it. Got a robogoose in 4 eggs (2 rounds of ambidextrous funkslinging), had used well over 150 prior.--Adbax 21:01, 26 December 2007 (CST)

It also worked for me, I used about 50 eggs in "normal" situations, then I unequipped all items, took out a familiar with 0xp, removed all buffs, and adventure in the dire warren ... I got a RoboGoose in 3 eggs ... This may or may not be a coincidence ... Carpetsmoker 18:27, 13 January 2008 (CST)

i might just be failing at RNG, but i burned ten or so eggs this way (dire warren, 0-kill/0-exp familiar, no funkslinging) and still no goose for me.  :( --Rufusina 11:50, 27 December 2007 (CST)

It's probably just a coincidence. I tried 15 eggs, fully healed, 0 kill, 0 exp familiar in the Dire Warren, no luck. --Macoronikevin 05:08, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

WORKED for me too! I used over 300 eggs in the Castle, then I got the goose after just four eggs in the Dire Warren. Level 27 DB using low level familiars. --Pal 21:11, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Double-Dosing

Anyone besides me noticing a common double-punch when it comes to the HP-loss effect? If it happens on one turn, often it'll happen again if I immediately use another egg. Could be just RNG, though. I'm also noticing the same thing happening a bit with the HP-heal effect. Is it just chance, or is anyone else getting similar results? Kilyle 16:15, 21 December 2007 (CST)

  • I burned mine up two at a time a few days ago with AFS. I noticed that more often than not both eggs would perform exactly the same action, but that's out of maybe five turns/10 eggs.--Jett 16:47, 21 December 2007 (CST)

The actual quote from The Merchant of Venice is "All that glisters is not gold", not "glitters". It's one of those things that everybody misquotes like "Beam me up, Scotty", "Play it again Sam" or "Elementary my dear Watson".

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Thank god for Ambidextrous Funkslinging, steal, sling, kill... I was getting to hate that goose.--Xclockwatcher 19:08, 22 December 2007 (CST)

As far as "all that glitters is not gold" (as the phrase has entered our culture, e.g., in the song All the Gold in California)... well, if gold does indeed glitter, then the phrase is inaccurate. The phrase as it stands could be rephrased "if it glitters, it's not gold". If the sentiment is supposed to be, accurately, "just because it glitters doesn't mean it's gold" then it should be stated "not all that glitters is gold". Not like anyone misunderstands the sentiment merely on the basis of grammar, but this fact has bugged me for a long time. Kilyle 18:03, 26 December 2007 (CST)

i'm not sure that's true - when someone says "all is not lost," is that the same as saying "nothing is lost"? --Rufusina 09:36, 28 December 2007 (CST)

I disagree completely. "All that glitters is not gold" should not be parsed "(all that glitters) -> not(is gold)", in the same way that someone who says "well, certainly ALL lawyers aren't crooks" isn't trying at all to claim that 100% of lawyers are non-crooks. The correct way to parse the statement is "not((all that glitters) -> (is gold))" - or, to put it a different way, not all things that glitter are gold (which is to say, there is at least one glittering, non-gold thing). It's a sort of archaic, rare formation, and it's one reason that you can't just mechanically parse English sentences for logical content. --Id the Mildly Confused 17:17, 12 January 2008 (CST)

Chances of getting egg?

  • I completely disagree with the addition to the page that states that the drop "is a factor of character level, familiar level, and enemy level." First or all, there have been people that are level 30 getting gooses in under 10 tries, and people at low levels taking hundreds until they get the goose. Familiar weight-based wouldn't make sense, or really be fair. All familiars (Baby Sandworm, Pixie, Bugged Bugbear, etc.) drop their items at certain (sometimes decreasing) weights, which aren't affected by weight at all. As for enemy level, what sense would that make? It'd be unfair for newer players in its easier to get the goose at higher levels (who couldn't access the Sea, etc.). Personally, I got the deactivated robogoose at about 105 tries. The estimated 1% is fine with me. --Mr. Green 22:48, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Agree with the above. I'm a SC Level 32, adventuring in Hobopolis and it took me about 55 eggs to get mine. It's likely a case of confirmation bias... --Shummie 17:07, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


Does the wiki entry need to cover how to get the deactivated RoboGoose?

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"The rate at which one receives the deactivated RoboGoose is about 1%."

Is this correct? I've just gone through 800 eggs and not got the familiar drop. Is it conditional on not having a RoboGoose? --Djve 14:55, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Please use the talk page for discussing possible inaccuracies on an article. And yes, you can only ever get one deactivated RoboGoose, but that's not really a concern since you'll never need another, and they cannot be traded. Unless you wanted to collect them, in which case you're out of luck. --timrem 16:59, 8 November 2011 (CET)

Please do not delete comments from talk pages. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 05:40, 25 November 2011 (CET)

Several of us were under the impression that a second goose would drop from the egg until one of us realized that it was non-tradeable. Would it be worth me writing a short page for how to get the familiar. It would cover the fact that you can get a familiar very fast with +items and you need to not have the familiar or the deactivated egg to get the familiar drop. One we realized this we all got the familiar in less than 10 eggs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Djve (talkcontribs) on 0:43, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

  • I can't see any reason for a new page; any comments on the drop rate can be added to the notes. However, also I can't figure out exactly what you're trying to say---you get the goose from the goose egg, and the goose eggs from the goose...you think you have found some other way? Please clarify. (Also, sign your posts). --Fig bucket 02:21, 25 November 2011 (CET)