Talk:Quest Spoilers

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What exactly is the hermit requesting be done with this page? It seems fine enough to me... --jin 19:05, 28 May 2005 (Central Daylight Time)

Quest ordering?

It seems like some of the quests are dependent on the completion of others (besides, of course, the NS being dependent on almost all the others being completed beforehand. Can this be confirmed? (In particular, I am level 7 and not getting the Deep Fat Friars' Gate Quest; it may be because I have yet to complete the Typical Tavern Quest or The King of Cobb's Knob Quest.) -- Antaeus Feldspar 00:24, 7 Nov 2005 (MST)

The Council of Loathing says Slay Your Nemesis Quest is available from level 4, Quest Spoilers says level 5. --NewZorkBat 04:11, 17 March 2006 (CST)

Can the 31337 scroll be considered a quest at all? It's just using an item... 19:44, 7 June 2006 (EST)

Well, it's a Quest Item, and it puts a note in your Quest Log... Phlip 22:40, 21 June 2006 (CDT)


Also you can't use it (anymore) prior to crossing the chasm, so even use of it is quest related. --Club 16:04, 4 October 2006 (CDT)

Spanish Fly quest?

Any reason why the Spanish Fly Quest was left off this page? Grimdel 13:00, 04 October 2006 (PST)

Does it show up in the quest log? I don't think so. That's probably why it was omitted, but feel free to write up a page for it and link it in. --Club 16:12, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
We probably need a new section for "The game doesn't call these 'Quests', but these are adventures that cannot occur unless you have completed something else/have a particular something in inventory." --Jonrock 16:45, 4 October 2006 (CDT)

Quest Names

  • Any thoughts on quest names? Should they match the quest log names etc.--Dehstil (t|c) 12:01, 28 October 2006 (CDT)
  • Also, made the 31337 scroll quest page.--Dehstil (t|c) 13:55, 28 October 2006 (CDT)
    • That's kind of a tough one, although I think I'm in favor of keeping the names as they are. For one thing, people are much more familiar with the "informal" names - most everyone knows the "Naughty Sorceress Quest", "Typical Tavern Quest", etc, but few are familiar with "The Final Ultimate Epic Final Conflict" or "Ooh, I Think I Smell a Rat.", etc. For another, the existing names are clear, whereas names such as "Cyrptic Emanations" are indeed cryptic. I think the problem is that the quest log names were added relatively late in the game (Feb 06), and are only viewable in a relatively unfrequented place in the game. Hence, the old, informal names have become entrenched. A final point is that Coldfront (our host) uses quest names that by and large match the names we use - it may cause some confusion for Coldfront users arriving here from the Coldfront quest links. But, assuming we don't rename the quests, we should definitely add the quest log names at or near the top of the individual quest pages. --Gymnosophist 14:46, 28 October 2006 (CDT)
  • Should any of the following end with the word, quest? Tame the Bugbears, Summon a Mushroom Familiar, Defeat Felonia, Unlocking The Castle in the Clouds in the Sky, The Secret of the Dungeons of Doom, Most Extreme Haiku Challenge--Dehstil (t|c) 14:52, 28 October 2006 (CDT)
  • I suppose they all should, as should the Zombie Cure quest. I came up with some other questions as I was looking at quests:
  1. The Quest Log treats Tame the Bugbears, Summon a Mushroom Familiar, Defeat Felonia as three parts of a larger quest ("A Bugbear of a Problem"). Should we create an umbrella quest for the three "child" quests? This would be similar to what we've discussed doing for the Spookyraven Manor Quest.
  2. Should we make quests pages for various "orphaned" quest items like the zap wands, around the world, bottle of used blood, half of a memo, meat globe, etc?
  3. We also have some "orphaned" unlock items like Cobb's Knob lab key, Continuum transfunctioner and dingy dinghy that we could make quests for.

I think I'm in favor of doing all these things. --Gymnosophist 10:09, 29 October 2006 (CST)

  • As am I...except...what should we call these non-questy quests? Just "Quests that don't appear in your quest log"?--Dehstil (t|c) 15:31, 29 October 2006 (CST)
  • I guess that's as good a name as any. I fiddled with the Quest Spoilers page to add this new section. The page now better agrees with the quest log page, but there are still a few minor problems (like the fact that the Quest Log doesn't show the Toot Oriole Quest, Slay Your Nemesis Quest or Strange Leaflet Quest as Council quests). I added non-linked placeholders for all these new quests (you can change the names if you like). I came up with a couple more: Beanstalk Quest and the Altar of Literacy Quest (the current Altar of Literacy page is a location page that is half set up as a quest page - it should be changed to being a pure location page). Finally, we've talked about breaking the NS Quest into subparts - that's still on the to-do list. --Gymnosophist 00:43, 30 October 2006 (CST)

Mini-quests?

Someone recently added the Please, Hammer/Don't Hurt 'Em and When Rocks Attack/Unstubbed "quests" ... the first is a proper quest (I suggest "Harold's Hammer Quest") but the second is really just a paired non-combat adventure IMHO. It doesn't result in a quest item, so why should they be listed on the Quest Spoilers page? And, if the "Harold's Hammer Quest" is going to be listed on the page, it should be formatted like all the other quests. Anyone disagree? --Dossy 07:48, 1 December 2006 (CST)

Curious... (Inciting a war)

I'm a level 15 Sauceror (No sorceress yet, just dorking around), and now the new level quests are released. Yay, dandy, all that jazz... except I only seem to geth the Holy MacGuffin quest. Do y'really have to do that one first? >_> I helped when my friend did his so there would be minimal wiki use, but... sheesh what a long thing. Really just curious. This unsigned comment was added on 22:10, 3 July 2007 by User:Elandra

You do not have to *complete* the MacGuffin quest--there is a point in the quest when returning to the Council will open the Island War quest for you. Since you're trying to avoid wiki usage, I won't tell you what it is! --Jonrock 01:39, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

MacGuffin skippable?

User:That1dude13 claims that completion of the MacGuffin quest is not a requirement for the final NS quest. I am extremely suspicious of that claim, so I have removed it from the page until it can be confirmed. --Jonrock 01:39, 31 July 2007 (CDT)

I've confirmed this as false. Level 13, just completed the war, as far along as the Pyramid for the level 11 quest, and the sorceress quest is not available. --Flargen 01:52, 3 August 2007 (CDT)

Nemesis Quest

Since the Nemesis quest is supposed to be a guild-quest, once redone, I'm going to take it off the list of the council quests.--Agburanar 17:41, 2 August 2007 (CDT)

Beanstalk Quest?

What is this? Perhaps each of the quests without its own page should be linked to the activating adventure page. Just Sayin'--Xclockwatcher 01:34, 15 October 2007 (CDT)

Sub-Quests

The Baron Von Rastworthy and the 6 Mysterious Island of Mystery Side-Quests should have a sub-listing below their associated main quest. They are only available during those quests and the island side quests work directly in conjunction with the level 12 quest.--Xclockwatcher 03:41, 15 October 2007 (CDT)

Extraneous Entry

Why is the meat globe listed as a quest? It isn't one. I'm just going to delete it. --Psly4mne 00:35, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Can someone explain to me how Cobb's Knob Laboratory, the Inexplicable Door, and the Vampire Hunter constitute quests? I'll delete them later if nobody disagrees. --Psly4mne 15:06, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Makeover

This page now looks hideous.--Toffile 06:11, 24 October 2011 (CEST)

  • it really does. can we have the old page back now? --Evilkolbot 07:50, 24 October 2011 (CEST)
  • Toffile and Evilkolbot, :( I remade the page with a focus on it being easier to navigate for newer players and to bring the page up to standard by moving notes to the bottom. Perhaps you just need to let this grow on you? Let's get some more opinions from other users. Perhaps it's the table headers that you find ugly? Any specific feedback you have in mind? --Lahonda 99 20:42, 27 October 2011 (CEST)
    • if it's standards you're after you've a ways to go. do some research.
      1. no other list page uses tables like this. the other one was actually like the others. and yes, the tables are ugly.
      2. much of their ugliness comes from the "no vertical dividers".
      3. yes, some of their ugliness comes from unfamiliarity. as in not standard.
      4. you've used html instead of wiki markup for the tables.
      5. you've used four (count them) different styles of tables. how is that standardised?
    • p.s. if you really are eleven as your username suggests, and even if you aren't, remember that none of this is personal. if you look at the wiki and page a looks like page b, that's because people have worked hard against the forces of chaos to make it so. --Evilkolbot 22:33, 27 October 2011 (CEST)
      • Just a quick addition to what Evilkolbot said, the tables make this page look more cluttered than the simple lists, particularly miscellaneous quests. I would like to say thanks for trying to improve the wiki and you obviously put a lot of work into this, but if high-use pages don't have any fundamental flaws that make it extremely hard to find the useful information in them (which I don't think this page did), it would be better if you proposed your change on the talk page before implementing it. --Melon 23:05, 27 October 2011 (CEST)
        • This is high use? Checks: This page has been accessed 2,169,041 times. I guess so. Maybe some people who actually use it should pipe in. I expect Toffile and Evilkolbot (and myself) are not the target audience. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 23:54, 27 October 2011 (CEST)
          • you have a point. i'd never looked at it before. would its target audience edit the wiki, though? or read talk? --Evilkolbot 00:32, 28 October 2011 (CEST)
          • The page is the 2nd most viewed page on the Wiki, after the Main Page.--Toffile 01:55, 28 October 2011 (CEST)
            • this page has come in handy for me many times, and I've also edited the wiki! go me? to weight in on the debate: I prefer the old layout, I find it easier to navigate & easier on the eyes! though I do support Lahonda's idea of adding in more info -- i.e. associating quests with their moon signs or locations. this could be useful for newbies, and may save a few clicks. also Lahonda, you wanted specific feedback, so here goes... the spacing (distance between lines) makes the text hard to read, and the amount of space between the different elements on each line is often unnecessary and also contributes to lack of readability. --Zucker 22:20, 28 October 2011 (CEST)
  • I'm offended less by the layout and more by the use of HTML in what should have been implemented using wiki tables; this is a maintenance and editability issue more than anything. That said, I would prefer vertical dividers, and consistently aligned dividers would be ideal. --Itsatrap 02:28, 29 October 2011 (CEST)
  • Wow!~ I really appreciate the quick and thorough responses. I have read and taken into consideration all of the feedback for future wiki edits.--Lahonda 99 02:07, 30 October 2011 (CEST)
    • When you want to try again, you can create a preview version somewhee. Use this talk page, create a new subpage like Talk:Quest Spoilers/revamp, or your own talk page. You can look through the history of say Talk:Daily Activities for me doing a revamp of that page as an example. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 02:26, 30 October 2011 (CEST)

Missing Scientists

2012 February 18: Chat Guide: Channels‎ (diff | hist) . . (+147) . . Ailurodragon (Talk | contribs) (Thanks for posting a screencap of /dev, Skully! http:// i.imgur.com/ct2CP.jpg) Look at the quest reminder on that screen shot. Is the missing scientists message a new one or just one I don't recognize? --Club (#66669) (Talk) 22:13, 18 February 2012 (CET)

2016 Updating

I've given this page a little makeover as it's been annoying me since I started playing last year. Few questions for discussion:

  1. Is "Scapegoat" even a quest? It looks to me like it's just adventuring in a map zone. If yes, should we also add all the other content unlocker stuff like Dis, The Rabbit Hole
  2. Should the quests from charter areas/LT&T etc. be listed here, possibly in the same manner that The Bounty Hunter Hunter's Daily Quest is?
  3. Anyone any better way of indicating the required moon signs for those 3 quests?

--Malibu Stacey (talk) 14:58, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

  1. I'd like to add that we should have a template with all the quests accessible and this template should go on the bottom of all quest pages, so if you're using the page as reference while you play you could easily access the next quest or any other quest by that matter

--LaceyJones (talk) 16:33, 24 March 2018 (UTC)