Talk:Monsters

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Monster Hit Chance

MindlessGames/RoyalTonberry, I'd like it if you would explain yourself. You've made several assertions +7 moxie is not enough to prevent monster normal hits. Unfortunately, I've yet to see any evidence of your statements. (And yes, I have checked your site.) What makes you so sure that +7 moxie will not make you safe from normal monster hits? I'll say this: in my experience with the game, I have never seen a normal hit by a monster when my moxie is 7 greater than the true Monster Level. You've claimed that one can see the evidence by stasising bunnies with a dictionary, but I'd like some hard numbers, please. --Irregular 08:32, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

  • Try it. Put on 8 moxie, and stasis fluffy bunnies, they will hit you with non-crit messages, albeit rarely. (about 1/5 of the time at Attack+5 moxie, and about 3/50 of the time at Attack+7) --RoyalTonberry 17:26, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Another nice bit of info is located here. Since she has no crits, it's very easy to tell. --RoyalTonberry 17:36, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks for answering me. Your data is pretty conclusive regarding the fact that you can be hit at +7 moxie by non-critical attacks. Unfortunately, that means I need a new formula for MonsterStats. --Irregular 06:35, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
    • Heh, not a problem, it shocked me when I first saw it happening too. Seems like it's been like this for a very long time. Perhaps even since the game began, and was just not spaded carefully? It does look like Moxie = Attack+10 is a safe amount though. I don't have a whole lot of data looking at the edges, but I've not seen any non-crit hits at Attack+10 as yet. --RoyalTonberry 06:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Always hit number wrong?

Trying to figure out what it's fumbles message is, I'm currently fighting a spirit bedbug, with monster attack according to Monster Manuel at 294 and my buffed moxie at 283, so moxie -11. This article states that you will always be hit at -9. However, the bedbug has now missed me with two different messages, which presumably can't both be fumbles. What's up here? --Notsupposedtobehere (talk) 12:08, 7 November 2013 (UTC)