Talk:Hot hobo

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There seems to be a special attack for these (and probably the other elemental hobos).

He gets the jump on you.

He grabs a piece of flaming garbage out of a nearby barrel, and hurls it at you, hadouken-style. Hoboken? You lose 253 hit points. (hot damage)

This is the entire text of the combat. I have Hero of the Half Shell permed and so there would normally be a "you fend off some of the attack" message, but there is none. This sort of attack also does 5x more damage than their "normal" attacks, at least to me (and I do get "fend" messages for the normal attacks). Bakapyrite 10:38, 18 June 2008 (CDT)

Just to show what a normal combat attack looks like:

He gets the jump on you.

He grabs a tire out of the nearby tire fire and whacks you with it. Ow! Argh! Ow! Ouch! Ooh! Ugh! Ooh! Ouch!

You fend off some of the attack with your shield. You lose 52 hit points. (hot damage)

Bakapyrite 10:46, 18 June 2008 (CDT)

I phrased my initial statement poorly. The hobos seem to have a class of special attacks. More than one. They all do the same thing, but the attack message varies. Some of the listed "hits" are actually what I'm figuring are special attacks. I'll work on adding/moving ones that I find. Bakapyrite 02:07, 19 June 2008 (CDT)

I've run out of Hot Hobos to fight, the "torch" will need to be picked up by someone else. Bakapyrite 09:43, 19 June 2008 (CDT)

I've been hit by the special attack twice that I've noticed. Both were on rounds when I fumbled. --Kitsunegami 03:40, 5 July 2008 (CDT)

  • It doesn't happen every time I fumble but so far all 3 times that it has happened were when I fumbled. --Kitsunegami 03:51, 5 July 2008 (CDT)

Messages/Damage

I'm distinguishing special attacks from normal attacks by a) amount of damage and b) lack of sound effects. These appear to be all of the special attacks. There should be one more hit message, namely about tires.

I've been testing how much damage these special attacks do. Before making any tire fire adjustments, damage appears to be between 158-193, averaging 175.8, with Considerable hot protection. This translates to 264 to 322 original damage. I've got 21 data points, but will add more. --Foggy 10:08, 4 July 2008 (CDT)

He plays a game of "hot potato" with you. Oh, wait, this is a game of "white-hot coal."

Seems to be the special attack because there were no sound effects and it did 81 damage to me when I was level 34 and had Very Extremely High resistance to all elements. --Kitsunegami 03:42, 5 July 2008 (CDT)

He pulls a boiling pot of hobo stew off of a fire and throws it all over you.
Dealt 57 hot damage under the same cirumstances as above. --Kitsunegami 03:56, 5 July 2008 (CDT)

Hot Hobo image

Any reason we can't just choose 1 of the 8 or so hot hobo images to display, instead of the question mark? It looks like something out of the dungeons of doom with the big ? right now --Fxer 14:09, 9 July 2008 (CDT)

I'd be more interested in knowing if we can make the image randomly selected, kind of like how {{part}} uses random selection. Just picking one presents the problem of there being no distinguished image to prefer over any other, and of giving the wrong impression that a hobo with a different image is actually a different monster. I believe Hobopolis provides the first examples of monsters with randomized images, so a standard for handling this hasn't really been drafted yet. We've just come to a temporary agreement on using the question mark to represent the unpredictable nature of the image. --Flargen 16:29, 9 July 2008 (CDT)

Monster Level

Just as a data-point, I don't seem to be able to hit with a ranged weapon and 312 moxie, which surprised me a little since I do fine during Normal Hobo encounters. --Itsatrap 03:52, 21 August 2008 (CDT)

Special attacks

Right now, as a level 20 SC, hot Hobos are doing around 1,100 damage per special attack. I have moderate heat resistance, and no +ML on. There's ~9 tires on the stack. Is this within the normal range? It seems a bit much to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unhuman (talkcontribs) on 01:04, 28 November 2008

  • That's what hot hobos do. A metric crap-ton of damage. It's seemed more severe to me with EE completed or nearly completed, but that may just be because I haven't done many runs lately; just a few speed runs. --Flargen 03:23, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Drop Rates

Just did a little experimentation with the Hot Hobos, and here are the results. I'll continue doing this as much as possible. I could use some help with the math, if anyone would like to lend a hand.

Running +166.75% Item Drop, I got the following drops over 300 kills:

  • 138 Nickels
  • 3 beds of coals
  • 1 Kissin' Cousins
  • 3 Tales from the Fireside

Not sure how meaningful the data is, but I thought it was a decent start. --WarrantyVoid 17:24, 9 June 2010 (UTC)