Talk:Familiars by availability

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Both the dataspider and Rocklobster are available through faxing. Should their positions be reviewed?--Gearge 12:46, 30 July 2011 (CEST)

Should the Wind-Up Chattering Teeth really be listed under Readily Available? It cannot be obtained through normal adventuring, but only through a skill obtained via a Mr. Store item that is no longer available except through the Mall (or received as a gift from someone else). --Baltar 15:21, 16 June 2006 (CDT)

  • I had then down in "Limited Availability", but someone moved them up. They are ever increasing in number as more hilarious items are summoned each day, but they are not tradable (the mall, etc.) b/c they are gift items, they must be gifted to other players. I guess the term "Limited Availability" was interpreted as "available for a limited time" whereas I meant it as "availablity is not broad, ie. limited, restrained, etc." --JRSiebz (|§|) 16:06, 16 June 2006 (CDT)

Is the NPZR really limited in availability? I can see no components that are not still available without Mr. Store, even though it would take at least three ascencions to get them all. --Saile 18:08, 4 January 2007 (CST)

  • There are currently a fixed number of zombie pineal glands in circulation, and (barring a new duplication bug) there probably will never be more. This is again using the interpretation of "limited" that JRSiebz is using above your comment, meaning "limited in number" not "available only for a limited time." --Emtu 18:48, 4 January 2007 (CST)

Hate to say it, but the Ragamuffin Imp *is* 'Readily Available'... to those who know its secret.--Terry 20:00, 16 July 2007 (CDT)

  • Well, since like the above comment said, "Limited Availability" means "available only for a limited time," and since anyone who knows the secret (which is barely a secret now, thanks to the wiki) get get one... I'll just stick it there.--JohnAnon 23:51, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

I think that would qualify as 'not readily available', though. Also, since the Exotic Parrot costs 500k meat and the Hound Dog requires 100 filthy lucre, do either of those really count as 'readily available'?Ponder Stibbons 11:20, 14 August 2007 (CDT)

Yes, please stick these two down below the rest of the "readily available" familiars, either separated by a line or in a section all their own. Certainly the Hound Dog. Consider: It's not merely 100 days of Bounty Hunter quests, which anyway is a lengthy requirement and not likely to be fulfilled prior to first ascension. It's also the fact that each quest takes about 40 adventures to complete. That's all the adventures you gain, every day.

If you were a new player, then in order to get the dog prior to your first ascension, and not spend substantially more than 100 days (1/3 of a year!) doing so, you'd have to learn almost immediately about (a) familiars, and the desire to collect them, (b) the Bounty Hunter shack and filthy lucre, and (c) food or drink, and how to acquire them in generous amounts. The last because otherwise you're doing nothing but Bounty Hunter quests with your daily quest allotment. Oh, and furthermore, you'd be giving up the halfway goal of getting Olfactory skillz, and have to make that 100 filthy lucre all over again.

At any rate, it definitely belongs separate from the rest, because it requires a special item to get, and gathering that item takes time. A newbie can't just go "Oh, well, I'm ascending on Sunday, so let's make sure I get all the familiars this week" and run out and buy a new Hound Dog. Kilyle 01:45, 3 December 2007 (CST)

The smiling rat is NOT once per ascension, a clannie of mine (goltar25)got 2 after the dungeon was remodled. He DID sell his first one before he got his second (and thus only had one in his inventory at a given time) but it is NOT once per ascension. Also, it's no always obtainable (if you know what you're doing) like the others in that category are--Watermoon 02:45, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Where should the Gelatinous Cubeling go?--Agent Orangey 01:46, 9 February 2013 (CET)

  • Assuming you can buy as many as you want (which I haven't checked), then "Unlimited Availability (with caveats)" just like the Hound Dog. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 02:13, 9 February 2013 (CET)
  • Alrighty, I added it, feel free to change/add it if it's not up to par. :)--Agent Orangey 03:44, 9 February 2013 (CET)

Ninja Snowflake

So, where would this be categorized? It's not readily available, as only moxie classes can get it, but it's also not limited availability, as every moxie class can get it. Any thoughts? --flatluigi 19:59, 10 January 2007 (CST)

  • It's Limited, because you must be a moxie class to get it, but you can still buy it in the store. It's similar to the chattering teeth. Only a few folks can get it now, but eventually you can get one too. Or start a new Class Dependant category. It sounds like some of the new turtle items might eventually make familiar too. In any case, it should not be under Sign Dependent, because it's not at all sign dependent. --xcorvis 09:41, 19 January 2007 (CST)
    • It's not really class dependent anymore, as you can pick pocket it bird form from a llama gong. --Ohnoanotherputz 15:42, 2 July 2008 (CDT)

Semi-limited?

The RoboGoose cannot be called normal because in a couple of days, hardcore players could not obtain one unless they already have a Robogoose. But it cannot be called limited because there is still a supply of hatchlings being added to the game. Where should this go? --CluckyB 21:44, 26 December 2007 (CST)

I think it falls under limited availability because no one who starts a Hardcore run right now can get one. --Trek Terp 21:50, 26 December 2007 (CST)

Isn't the robogoose not available at all anymore, now that Crimbotown is gone again?--Embobly 01:24, 16 January 2008 (CST)

  • The familiar itself lays eggs which can be used to hatch new hatchlings. --Chunky_boo 02:59, 16 January 2008 (CST)

Clan-Dependant

Shouldn't the purse rat be under clan dependent, since comes from a clan VIP vending machine?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohnoanotherputz (talkcontribs) on 15:19, 3 June 2009

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  2. Yes. --CG1:t,c,e 22:33, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

BRICKO chick

I don't think it's limited-time available. Even after the libram is removed from Mr. Store, BRICKO bricks can still continually be summoned. In any case, the statement that "they continually increase in number" contradicts the intent of the category. --CG1:t,c,e 03:24, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Perhaps it needs a new subcategory, because it doesn't really seem to fit in any of the current limited availability sections. --Elseif 03:48, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

New Category?

Perhaps we ought to add one more category, one that might become rather full at some point: NO Availability. The Hand Turkey is already gone for good, and I'm pretty sure others are too. So maybe this new category could be useful for telling new players "Hey, sorry, can't get them anymore." --Draken 12:35 pm, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

  • er, boozer has three (bastard) and there are 17 in display cases in total, so they're not unavailable as such. bricko eggs are ~8m in the mall, and much, much more to get yourself, would that count as "sorry" since a poor newbie would think that an unimaginable sum? i'm agin since it's neither informative nor useful and the current "former mr store items" category (which suggests its own unavailability) is enough. --Evilkolbot 20:18, 19 March 2010 (UTC)