Talk:Dirty Laundry

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NPRZ is in the trophy... I assume it doesn't involve the familiar. The image file name refs a lyric with the same name as the trophy. --Brion thenotgiant 22:44, 17 April 2008 (CDT)

I actually think it looks like a spooky pirate skeleton, although I'm not sure what either of those have to do with laundry.

Who has this trophy? Jzkqm 23:12, 17 April 2008 (CDT)

Yeah, that's the spooky pirate skeleton, not a NPZR.--Toffile 23:22, 17 April 2008 (CDT)

Cthules has the trophy. The spoiler was a birthday gift. Around a dozen folks potentially overheard the spoiler, but apparently weren't paying attention, or are letting cthules suffer until it's officially found. Because she didn't legitimately find it, she's waiting until people have had a real chance to figure it out. Cthules 23:29, 17 April 2008 (CDT)

Heh, "Skeleton in the closet" (like the skeleton on the trophy) and "Dirty laundry" are both terms for a dark secret. Clue, or just random speculation on my part? --LegendaryBard 23:39, 17 April 2008 (CDT)

  • So you know, it's not as simple as putting a Spooky Pirate Skeleton in your colossal closet. *sigh* --LegendaryBard 23:41, 17 April 2008 (CDT)
    • Putting 100 Spooky Pirate Skeletons in your closet doesn't do it either. Perhaps a MAS is required as well? --Geenius 06:58, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

i bet it has something to do with losing X number (in a row?) of battles as the name of the trophy and the picture title refer to the song dirty laundry by don henley and as the song says -People love it when you lose They love dirty laundry- well we'll see--Kreagar 23:40, 17 April 2008 (CDT)

  • Just an observation - trophy #64 falls in the range of NS13 trophies, so I assume it doesnt involve content that came afterwards. ie probably doesnt involve the updated pirate content. --Grimdel 23:55, 17 April 2008 (CDT)
    • Another observation - Jick has repeatedly said that the undiscovered (10) trophies involve non-optimal play. Running away from combat falls into this category --Grimdel 23:58, 17 April 2008 (CDT)
      • 10 undiscovered trophies? I thought that was a continuation of his old joke about there always being 7 undiscovered trophies, plus the three actually undiscovered. Also, except for one or two of the easy ones, all trophies involve non-optimal play. --Deusnoctum 00:04, 18 April 2008 (CDT)
        • Jick has mentioned this (10 undiscovered trophies) a couple times on his radio shows, that he was surprised at the amount (some over a year old), and mused that the reason why the number was this high was that it involved sub-optimal gameplay. The discussion seemed serious, and not in the sarcastic tone Jick normally uses for this topic. --Grimdel 13:14, 18 April 2008 (CDT)
          • The fact that the "7 undiscovered trophies" joke has been overused so much (along with the growing trend of adding in the number of actually undiscovered trophies) probably explains why Jick didn't sound as sarcastic as usual - there are only 3 undiscovered trophies, and this is one of them (the others are #50 and #68). --Quietust (t|c) 13:34, 18 April 2008 (CDT)
            • It's 10. In that discussion Riff asked if that was the real number and not 7, to which Jick answered "yes, it's the real number." Probably 3 and a new block that he's added in. --Ashallond 19:15, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

I think that the trigger is getting beaten-up. I think.--Brion thenotgiant 00:12, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

Given the imagename, I think it involves fighting while beaten-up. --Sparksol 00:24, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

What about maybe [x] fights while naked (My clothes are all in the laundry)?--Puppy528 02:50, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

For people spading: I spent 50 consecutive turns adventuring beaten up (explosive-chewing gum) & using a spooky pirate skeleton - for no result. Then 20 turns beaten up (rock pops and dypepsi) & allowing the spooky pirate skeleton to make the kills - for no result. --Bottom Feeder 04:36, 18 April 2008 (CDT) I spent 70 consecutive turns being defeated whilst adventuring beaten up & using a spooky pirate skeleton - for no result. --Bottom Feeder 08:31, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

  • If you check cthules's spooky pirate skeleton, you'll see its only 2lbs - if the trophy does involve the familiar, it has to be something that doesnt crunch turns. --Grimdel 22:23, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

Isn't the skeleton graphic also tied to the Arid Desert status "Turned into a Skeleton"? --Zinc saucier 05:15, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

Putting 11 skeletons in the closet, wearing all filthy gear, wearing kick-ass kicks and/or a foam finger, without or without a skeleton or TP skeleton equipped, all don't do it. Also tried beaten up with various amounts of these conditions. Can't find any real reference to the song in the game. Scyld 17:11, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

Wearing the same outfit for X ridiculously number of adventures? Without changing at all what so ever? Ehh maybe not. --Darkwolf 21:47, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

Having over 10 adventures-worth of Turned Into a Skeleton= nothing.--Mai 08:57, 19 April 2008 (CDT)

Tested: 11, 37, and up to 5000 turns of beaten up (using rock pops and cola) Nothing --Dannyboy 09:42, 19 April 2008 (CDT)

Some thoughts on things to try: Has anyone tried taking on a large amount of pirates in all 3 parts of the ship yet? The first area (kick them while they're up), the below decks (kick them while they're down) and the f'c'l (kick them all around)? Possibly using the insults. The grungy pirate clothes also come to mind because of the title, as does use of true grit. Finally, the bricks of sand as combat items. This might also fit into the "kick them" schema of the song. I have been hunting CPoT, so I can sacrifice 100 adventures each in the other two parts of the ship and see if this nets anything. --Chazriel 09:53, 19 April 2008 (CDT)

  • Well it is not by just kicking them or else this would have worked. Not done insulting them yet though.--Chazriel 20:13, 20 April 2008 (CDT)
    • Pirate insulting failed. (Now she says stop wasting turns.) Also grungy clothes do not work. --Chazriel 12:47, 23 April 2008 (CDT)
      • Maybe I'm wrong. I think your missing the point - its not "stop wasting turns", its "stop" "wasting" "turns" -> those 3 words are the clue(s). Unfortunately I can't come up w/ what this might mean in KOL terms -> dont eat/drink/spleen? Can't be that - any low level oxycore will earn that. Dont adventure for a few days? Cant be that either - lots of people log on sporaticly... *sigh* Hope your enjoying Xeno's b-day present Cthules - its killing me :) --Grimdel 13:23, 23 April 2008 (CDT)
      • Other thoughts - an anagram? She capitalized the words - S.W.T. - mean anything to anyone? --Grimdel 13:38, 23 April 2008 (CDT)
        • aaaaaaaaaaargh. ok, my apologies for weird grammar. This trophy does not require spending any adventures. --Cthules 12:39, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
          • People are reading waaaay too far into everything you say. It's a trophy, guys, not a cryptic puzzle. --TechSmurf 12:47, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

Strange that nobody has brought up the most dirty laundry in the land, namely the glad bag glad rags.[1] --Franknbeans 23:01, 19 April 2008 (CDT)

Just a thought. Image file names have a history of being, at best, tangentially related to the trophy. --TechSmurf 23:29, 19 April 2008 (CDT)

I wonder if there's a closet that YOU can get into, while "Turned Into A Skeleton"? JLE 10:35, 20 April 2008 (CDT)

Verified that it is not 100 combats with no gear (ie, your laundry was dirty). --YankaTexee 10:49, 20 April 2008 (CDT)

Anyone try something as simple as a 100% run of Spooky Pirate Skeleton? --Duty 11:49, 20 April 2008 (CDT)

  • If you could get it by doing a 100% run with a Spooky Pirate Skeleton, Cthules would have one on his/her ascension history. --Valkron 17:14, 20 April 2008 (CDT)
    • She was noted to have "not deserved it" so we cannot go off of what she has done. --Chazriel 20:04, 20 April 2008 (CDT)
      • "not deserved it" in the sense of being told precisely what I had to do to achieve the necessary state required to trigger the trophy hut. If you're trying things my character clearly hasn't done (like 100% Spooky Pirate Ascension), you won't find the trophy --Cthules 21:36, 20 April 2008 (CDT)

Maybe you do something to a pirate after successfully using the insult book? --Red Noodle 15:53, 20 April 2008 (CDT)

Perhaps some combination of effects that mention your clothes, like the various powders or something? --Sparksol 19:35, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

I'm guessing that it has to do with the item 'All-Purpose Cleaner' that you obtain in the F'c'le and the accompanying 'Soul-Crushing Headache' effect that reduces all attributes by 20%. Perhaps you have to adventure through a number of rounds with this effect OR accumulate other negative effects to negate so you can add/obtain a high number of adventures with a Soul-Crushing Headache effect. This fits getting kicked around, the pirate ship, and since you 'rub the all-purpose cleaner all over your body,' it fits dirty laundry. --Cthulhu Kid 20:26, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

  • I got 550 turns of Soul-crushing headache and dispelled a bunch of bad status effect...nothing Akahad
  • What if Hopped Up on Goofballs is considered a "negative" effect for the purposes of cleaning? Then you'd be "up" and then you'd be "kicked" (headache). Bakapyrite 04:39, 26 April 2008 (CDT)

Stop. Wasting. Turns. Here's a longshot: purposely not wear turn-giving clothes, pulverizing turn-giving equipment, OR putting all of it in the Colossal Closet for a roll-over or purchase-while-true amount of time? Maybe purposely letting adventures roll over 200 (maybe from an activity other than the passive ones)?

Other interesting lines from the song "Crap is King," "We got our dirty little fingers in everybody's pie," and "Eat your dirty laundry" --Cthulhu Kid 18:48, 23 April 2008 (CDT)

New Theory Get to the Poop Deck (Crap is King) after unlocking it in the F'c'le (where you get dirty) and do not read your Father's MacGuffin Diary so that you trigger the 'Beware ...' Quest rather than 'The Password is always Swordfish.' At this point, you will get kicked in the shins by a pirate (Kick'em while they're up[per decks]) and bitten by a shark. Purchase the trophy while in this beaten up state. Note, this is sub-optimal game-play. And it isn't wasting adventures. --Cthulhu Kid 19:47, 23 April 2008 (CDT)

  • Don't think this is the right path - Cthules hasn't ascended since December and has played 25k turns since then. It would be highly unlikely that Cthules hadn't opened up the belowdecks in all that time. --Grimdel 21:06, 23 April 2008 (CDT)

So did anyone earn this trophy? Because someone had to, to get the image file to upload. --Lemon-claw 21:45, 21 April 2008 (CDT)

In this thread, we learn how to read. An answer is in the first sentence of the 5th comment from the top. Never mind the fact that Cthules seems to be talking about Cthules in the third person. Flargen thinks this is most excellent. --Flargen 22:17, 21 April 2008 (CDT)
  • cThules is glad that Flargen thinks highly of her inconsistent grammar in this talk page. (o: (Also... cThules promised /hardcore a hint by wednesday if they haven't managed to spade it out without help by then.) --Cthules 00:00, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

You people on the kolwiki are so RUDE. Just answer the damn question next time without giving me any lip. --Lemon-claw 22:56, 21 April 2008 (CDT)--

  • That wasn't rude at all, it was hilarious. Terrabyte thinks that you are the rude one. However, Terrabyte thanks for your insightful input and spading in this discussion. You are awesome! --Terrabyte 15:02, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

No that wasn't rude. In fact it was a nice way to inject some humor into a page. Ashallond thinks that everyone should spend the time to read and be educated. That's the teacher in him. Ashallond also thinks that whining will get more people to not be helpful for things that someone may want to know. Also, cThules has better grammar than Ashallond. Actually most everyone does. Just ask his students. --Ashallond 20:07, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

hint for the week (as given in /hardcore) Stop. Wasting. Turns. --Cthules 10:31, 23 April 2008 (CDT)

  • Didn't you also mention something about evil? Eran of Arcadia 10:51, 23 April 2008 (CDT)
    • Someone in /hardcore pointed out that they'd played 666 turns this ascension, and I responded to that. --Cthules 12:29, 23 April 2008 (CDT)
      • Ooh, that was me! (Well, another character.) Eran of Arcadia 10:04, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
  • does this maybe have some meaning of not resting off the beaten up effect in a given run?--Kreagar 17:16, 23 April 2008 (CDT)
  • Something just occured to me...The phrase Stop. Wasting. Turns. in itself has meaning. You don't put periods after each word without trying to say something specific. But why refer to turns, when we clearly use "adventures" or "time" as a means to judge how long things take to do? "Turns" could be referring to something that turns...like a wheel. Turns could also refer to something changing from one thing into another. --Grogum the Violent Activist 01:55, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
    • Nice thought, Grogum. Perhaps the Trophy is associated with beating The Ancient, Buried Pyramid only using Tomb Ratchets taken from the Tomb Rats in the Upper Chamber. This prevents wasting turns in both the sense that you're not wasting turns of the wheel or actual turns (as using ratchets justs wastes the item). Skeletons are in the Pyramid, so that sort-of matches with the trophy. I can't explain the Dirty Laundry connection, but I imagine this would take time AND be kicking the players while they are up/down by making something long (The MacGuffin Quest) even longer. Maybe you only need to use X ratchets (maybe just more than wheel turns OR 11) to get the trophy, since cThules probably already beat the level (probably turning the wheel). Just a longshot theory. --Cthulhu Kid 03:30, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
      • MrStickman has confirmed that defeating Ed the Undying without using any turns of the wheel (i.e. only using Tomb Ratchets) does not make you eligible for this (obviously), or any other, trophy. --Cthulhu Kid 18:04, 15 May 2008 (CDT)
    • the trophy has a skeleton and it occurs to me "wasting" might also mean starvation / malnuritment. one thing the media will flock over (as per the song reference) is stick thin celebs, could be something to think about. also if it does hold any relevence most pictures of the starved stars are taken while in their bathing suits, possibly turned into a skeleton and taking a beach vacation? --Kreagar 02:27, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

"Its interesting when people die" and "We can do the innuendo" Maybe go into chat with both the Naughty riding crop equipped and while beaten up? Also: "You dont really need to find out whats going on" Maybe a certain number of adventures while blinded by White Lightnings? Also Also: "Just leave well enough alone" Maybe you have to pick the "do nothing" option on every non combat you recieve? Also Also Also: "We got our dirty little fingers in everybodys pie" Maybe you have to steal a certain number of pies via PvP? Dunno...Just some new things to toss out there.--Hetchman 03:10, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

  • It wouldn't require a Mr. Store item, for starters. --TechSmurf 12:47, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

I tried going to the Trophy Hut w/ the "Fit To Be Tide" effect (since it refers to the laundry soap) - no go :( --Grimdel 16:15, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

What about putting dirty clothes in the closet ? Anyone tried to put the cursed pirate outfit in closet ? Akahad

  • Has anyone tried wearing all the Pirate Gear? Like the Cursed Zombie Pirate Costume, Arrrgyle Socks, Pirate Hook, Tiny Plastic Spooky Pirate Skeleton, Pirate Shirt, and also selecting the Cursed Pirate Tattoo? Maybe being Super-Piraty gets you the trophy. --Cthulhu Kid 00:21, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

This is just purely speculation, going on what I've heard cThules say about the trophy, but it was something she sat down at the computer and did, she even mentioned other people being there watching (although apparently none paid any attention to it) but based on the fact that she can just sit there and "do" it, it can't be something related to ascensions or rollover. Stop wasting turns probably means it's not something related to adventuring, which leaves outfit, buffs/status effects, and current familiar equipped. I think it's best to focus on that - not that these thoughts have helped me figure it out yet, but I thought I'd share my mental meandering. --Quisalas 18:57, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

Ok, so Cthules said quit wasting turns. i.e. don't adventure (read above a bit) so if not in Bad moon I'd try some ideas. But my multi says its not for having 5 turns of each of the elental pants effects from the powders on. --Ashallond 22:16, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

I had an idea, some time ago, that i never complete due to my "mechanised way of playing" (I try to ascend quick, but playing at full adventuring, not smart play) Well here goes: If the whole "Stop. Wasting. Turns." is just that, wasting turns? These last trophies are things you get for "un-optimal play" How about we lose a big quantity of turns past rollover? Like a bunch of turns non-burned caused by NOT playing? Maybe you have to lose like a hundred turns because of rollover. If that's so, somebody should try today, since it's Feast of Boris. If someone wants to try this, send me a k-mail to Kydroukair in KoL with the subject "stupid idea FTW" and I'll send him spare chow-meins or wontons by the end of the day. Ah! and a thing... maybe you must NOT be drunk... --KydrouKair, The Pastamancer 06:44, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

Tested and failed: Wearing nothing save a tube sock, wearing nothing save a tube sock with no other clothes in my inventory, wearing nothing with no clothes in my inventory. Thought the tube sock might just work. Darn. --Duty 08:15, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

No trophy for using all-purpose cleaner with an outfit equipped. Did all my outfits, and i have everything except cursed pirate, radio regalia and bow outfit. Akahad 13:14, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

Desert Related

On the theory it's related to something related to adventuring unhydrated in the desert I did the following w/ no results:

  • 300 turns unhydrated in the Desert
  • 38 encounters of "Sandstorm, Take me Away from the Norm"
    • able to accumulate 14 turns of "Turned into a Skeleton" at one time

--Grimdel 19:21, 20 April 2008 (CDT)

  • 100 turns of combat while under the "Turned into a Skeleton" effect --Grimdel 19:29, 22 April 2008 (CDT)

It's not accumulating all six desert effects at once. (which took around 150 turns to accomplish) --Babyscarface 19:52, 20 April 2008 (CDT)

Just a new theory, maybe you have to rest for X number of adventures in a row. Since when you go to bed with all your clothes on your clothes get all rumpled. And when you rest you "stop." and you are "wasting" time and you are spending adventures (i.e. "turns")--Sacul097 21:36, 23 April 2008 (CDT)

Got the effect Turned Into A Skeleton and then went to my colossal closet. Typed in my name and hit put. No trophy. Misstrain 10:18, 24 April 2008 (CDT)

  • Not sure if this has anything to do with the trophy or not, but in the field in your colossal closet if you type in things besides numbers it puts in or takes stuff out anyway, while other other quantity fields, like the mall or clan stash, say That doesn't make any sense. Misstrain 21:08, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

Piratosity?

  • same as clownosity, but for, er, pirates. i remember cthules being very fond of wearing the cursed pirate gear and an arrrgyle sock. not too tricky to spade. later. --Evilkolbot 02:08, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
    • eyepatch, pirate shirt, curmudgel, costume sword, swashbuckling pants, swashbuckling pants, arrrgyle socks, pirate fledges and stuffed shoulder parrot. It's either not that, or that combination is not pirate-y enough. --Phelyan 03:50, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
      • errr.. just one pair of pants --Phelyan 03:51, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
    • Somewhat related to this, the Unusual Fashion Sense buff from worm wood mentions a specific outfit. I think the tropical crimbo pants would match the best, which I don't have access to, but I've always hoped there was something for dressing up like that. The name Dirty Laundry even matches somewhat, if you're wearing something very strange since everything else is dirty.--Eleron 05:46, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
      • tropical crimbo pants too rare, unfortunately. also, cursed pirate stuff more piratey, i would say, than swashbuckling outfit. will test. --Evilkolbot 06:22, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
  • how much more piratey can i get?
Hat:  cursed eyepatch (Power: 200) 
Shirt:  pirate shirt (Power: 50) 
Weapon:  cursed cutlass (Power: 200, 1h) 
Pants:  cursed breeches (Power: 200) 
Accessory 1:  arrrgyle socks 
Accessory 2:  pirate fledges 
Accessory 3:  stuffed shoulder parrot 
Familiar:  blundarrrbus 

Well-Swabbed Ear (5)
Well-Oiled (5)
Leash of Linguini (10)
Piratastic (10)
Soul-Crushing Headache (10)
Talking Like a Pirate (12)
Green Tongue (20)
Empathy (179)
Aloysius' Antiphon of Aptitude (239)

a second cutlass? that would just be cruel. --Evilkolbot 06:52, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

  • tip jar! can't test, working. later. --Evilkolbot 07:10, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
    • I was going to suggest a pirate hook, but again, that's not available to all... --Phelyan 07:13, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
      • Yeah, I second the pirate hook, but also why not an off-hand Tiny Plastic Spooky Pirate Skeleton? It is, after all, on the trophy, right? --Cthulhu Kid 09:52, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
        • no go - TP's are accessories, not offhands :( --Grimdel 14:31, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
  • When I thought of dirty laundry, I thought of dirty socks--but having three arrrgyle socks on didn't do it, nor did having the Swashbuckling Getup plus two socks. --Deusnoctum 19:57, 27 April 2008 (CDT)

Hint Hint?

So I got sent this by Jicken Wings, who has the trophy:

Jicken Wings (private): That trophy took me to the cleaners, but fortunately it was all-purpose so I got my bitchin' meat car washed too.

...and then: Jicken Wings (private): Ever wonder why useless powder has a "use" link? Think about it.

I do not know if they are connected, but I have a sneaking suspicion they might be. Jicken's profile also says "Not. Wasting. Turns", which I also think might be connected --Mrjingjing 11:07, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

I got a custom coffee cup from Jicken Wings that says "kickem when dey up". I know the icon for the trophy has that phrase, but does it mean more? Also - Cthules has said in this page that we're reading too much into the her first clue - she really did mean to say stop burning/wasting turns - getting the trophy doesnt require any turn usage. --Grimdel 12:33, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

I got messages from Jicken Wings saying the following:

Jicken Wings (private): Get your dooks in a row. Quack.

Jicken Wings (private): What can you make of this? I had my dirty little fingers in everybody's pie ... do you?

The hints keep getting more interesting... --Das Keet 13:24, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

  • Sounds like getting pie'd? That would fit for kicking someone when they're down. Getting pie'd while being beaten up? Some other use of the hilarious/tasteful gifts?--Plater (t|c) 13:31, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

The hints keep getting more random... --TechSmurf 13:26, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

Jicken Wings (private): What skill might be considered "kicking"? And how might that skill be used to "kick 'em when they're up?"
Jicken Wings (private): See if you can find the meaning in this: I never would have thought to look in Black Forest if it hadn't been for the clue in The Hidden Temple.
Jicken Wings (private): This is the best hint I've got: You can find what you need for it in the Barrel Full of Barrels.
Jicken Wings (private): This is the best hint I've got: Wanna fight? Dook it out with the Dook of Earl, but you might have to duct a lot.
Jicken Wings (private): A full spleen might be something you need ... I'm just sayin'.
Jicken Wings (private): A hint? Think you got true grit, pilgrim? Well, you won't when you're done.
Jicken Wings (private): What can you make of this? A >90% Gravy Fairy familiar ascension run might get you where you want to go.
Jicken Wings (private): Here's a hint just for you, TechSmurf: Have you looked inside the sunken chest?
Jicken Wings (private): A hint? I never would have thought to look in The Haunted Conservatory if it hadn't been for the clue in The Junkyard.
Jicken Wings (private): Reply hazy. Ask again later.
Jicken Wings (private): Cleaning the Glad Bag Glad Rags might be considered kicking the Giants when they're up
Jicken Wings (private): Here's a hint just for you, TechSmurf: Think you got true grit, pilgrim? Well, you won't when you're done.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have here a barrel full of herrings. Red herrings. --TechSmurf 13:32, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

Two more to add to the list...

Jicken Wings (private): Here's a hint: In what year was "Dirty Laundry" released? Does that number seem "familiar" to you?

Jicken Wings (private): A hint? Your fortune is written in the stars ... or maybe in your palms. That's a lotta reading!

Something having to do with John Wayne perchance? --Das Keet 13:44, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

  • Palms + reading == Hugo's Weaving Manual --Phelyan 08:14, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

Jicken Wings (private): All I can say is that I had 42 fewer bits of clingfilm in my inventory after I got the trophy. --Hetcher 04:23, 27 April 2008 (CDT)

  • He's just using a bot to respond to everything.. log in on multiple accounts and hammer him with PMs, you'll get very fast responses to all of them. I have a sneaking suspicion it's purely random. --MindlessGames 14:05, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
    • Yes, a bot indeed. I got quite a few of the same responses that TechSmurf already posted though, so I'm thinking these are actual hints and not just random. --Das Keet 14:13, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
  • its not all random - real hints are probably in the mess - the trick is to weed out the garbage.
  • "A hint? I can respond to requests for hints about the trophy in many, many ways. A few of them are even correct."
  • heres some common theems that I see reoccuring:
    • all purpose cleaner seems to pop up in different sayings
    • spleen usage of something available from the barrel full of barrels
    • what you wear is part of the puzzle
  • definate red herrings:
  • If he responds w/ three random words, they're anagrams of "stop wasting turns"
  • anything involving >90% of a familiar in a level run - no turn usage needed

--Grimdel 14:14, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

Jicken Wings (private): Here's something you should know - at least one of the "it can't be this" statements on the the KOL Wiki discussion page about the trophy is completely incorrect. --Duty 14:58, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

  • if we take the wording literally, theres only one "it can't be" on this page "it can't be something related to ascensions or rollover" Of course, this could be another red herring --Grimdel 15:24, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

My analysis of the clues... I don't think there are as many "red herrings" as is implied above.

  • Multiple lines state "I never would have thought to look in Area-1 if it hadn't been for the clue in Area-2.". I think this is telling us to utilize a clue in a zone to look elsewhere.
  • The reference to true grit implies it is used. I believe this is part of the puzzle.
  • Several references to needing the spooky skeleton.
  • Several references to duct tape (aka killing the ducks). However, it might also be referring to increasing item drop rate, which there are other references to.

Anyway, those are my thoughts. I hope someone can get a tad of inspiration out of this.Turlo 18:10, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

  • I keep going back to what Cthules said early on. "I was told what I had to do, I sat down and did it and people were watching but didn't realize what i was doing." So my guess....wear something, use an item or three. Maybe rollover with said outfit and effects and Voila!...trophy. --Ashallond 22:11, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

Wishing it has NOTHING to do with it, Jicken Wings TP'ed me.... i suppose my previous posted idea was wrong.--KydrouKair, The Pastamancer 22:17, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

Jicken Wings gave me a foot massage after I made my first post on this talk page. Misstrain 22:25, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

This is just my two cents. I asked Jicken Wings to give me hints, and they were as followed...:

  • Jicken Wings (private): Tut. Spawns. Storing.
  • Jicken Wings (private): Hey, Ironcheff.... I'm trying to remember... What it the name of that small curved nut? You know, they put them in some Oriental dishes.... Usually with chicken...--Ironcheff 22:35, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

(My first time editing the wiki. Apologies in advance for any screwups.)

Using one of each elemental + twinkly powder, and a useless powder, followed by an all-purpose cleaner does nothing - unless this needs to be done in a specific outfit. The all-purpose cleaner doesn't remove any of the powder effects, as they're beneficial. Also, I had the effects running through rollover, with no particular effect.

Here, apart from the ones already on the wiki, are the results of my asking Jicken Wings for hints:

  • Jicken Wings (private): Get your meat stacked in a row, then we'll talk.
  • Jicken Wings (private): Well, CheddarBeer, it's like this: Every desperado is haunted by poultry. Don't run afowl when gambling.
  • Jicken Wings (private): All I can say is that I had 2 fewer handfuls of sand in my inventory after I got the trophy.
  • Jicken Wings (private): All I can say is that I had 37 fewer upsy daisies in my inventory after I got the trophy.--Cheddarbeer 00:05, 26 April 2008 (CDT)

Why are we still going with Jicken Wings's hints? Even if one of them is right, it's a needle in haystack. A haystack full of hay that all looks exactly like needles. --TechSmurf 00:09, 26 April 2008 (CDT)

What's the deal with trying to make you say "Cashew" on Jicken Wing's bot, only to pretend you sneeze when you say it? Also, he did say one thing here in this talk was wrong. Also, look at other trophies, and what they make you do. There is never a trophy that makes you do something like have the "Turned into a skeleton" effect and get punched off the pirate ship while chatting in four channels at once on a Tuesday. The process is relatively simple, once you know what it is. Some make you burn turns, this one apparently does not. Regardless, it is not something stupid and complicated. So stop over-thinking.--Duty 07:22, 26 April 2008 (CDT)

  • 'Thank you. Anyway, the cashew thing is probably just a joke. Clan bots are chock full of in-jokes. --TechSmurf 12:40, 26 April 2008 (CDT)

For those who don’t know, “Dirty little fingers in everybody’s pie” and “Kick ‘em when they’re up” are lyrics from the Don Henley song ‘Dirty Laundry’. This is mentioned in the article, but I haven’t seen any reference on the discussion page when people try to figure out what they could mean.--Ivan Mcmad 12:44, 26 April 2008 (CDT)

Just wore all mu outfits, including custom ones, one at a time and used a bottle of cleaner between each change without unlocking trophy. Also noticed that the price spiked for the cleaner today. Misstrain 22:08, 26 April 2008 (CDT)

Going with the "news story" angle... Just tried to listen to all available chat channels (you know... for juicy gossip) that I had access to and no trophy. Only channels I don't have access to are lounge, harem, villa, and dev. --Shoptroll 10:42, 27 April 2008 (CDT)

  • I have been thinking and think you are the right track. Stop wasting turns (adventures). She sat on the computer and just did it, at least 20 people saw what she did but might not have realized what she was doing. This appears to be sth done in chat. You have to air your dirty laundry in chat. --Chazriel 15:25, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

Jicken Wings (private): See if you can find the meaning in this: Did you "spell" that correctly? Is that the "effect" you wanted to have? Littlebum2002 16:58, 27 April 2008 (CDT)

Latest quotes from Jicken Wings-

  • Jicken Wings (private): Making brinks of sand can sure make your hands (and clothes) dirty ... I'm just sayin'.
  • Jicken Wings (private): You want a hint? Nothing removes those suspicious stains you get at The Poop Deck like all-purpose cleaner.
  • Jicken Wings (private): Stow. Sparing. Stunt.
  • Jicken Wings (private): Parsing. Two. Stunts.
  • Jicken Wings (private): My current choice of equipment is not a spoiler itself, but it is a very good hint. See what you can make of that. (P.S he was wearing
    • filthy knitted dread sack
    • Colonel Mustard's Lonely Spades Club Jacket
    • acoustic guitarrr
    • filthy corduroys
    • arrrgyle socks
    • pirate fledges
    • tiny plastic smarmy pirate
  • Jicken Wings (private): Well, Ironcheff, it's like this: I never would have thought to look in The Sleazy Back Alley if it hadn't been for the clue in The Poop Deck.
  • Jicken Wings (private): All cThules will let me say is this: I never would have thought to look in The Black Forest if it hadn't been for the clue in The Hidden Temple.
  • Jicken Wings (private): See if you can find the meaning in this: Your Spooky Pirate Skeleton familiar may be of use.
  • Jicken Wings (private): A >90% Spooky Pirate Skeleton familiar ascension run is one step to getting a certain trophy.--Ironcheff 07:25, 28 April 2008 (CDT)
    • Devious... the >90% SPR is one step in getting a trophy, just not this one... --Phelyan 07:53, 28 April 2008 (CDT)


Pretty much everyone is Alfub knows it. It's not very expensive, and it doesn't take any turns. You need significant;y less than 99 items, and a bitch aint one of the,. SOME of those Jicken Wing hints seem to be random, and for different trophies.That's the hint I'll give you, pretty simple really. -*-Fineldar 1:51, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

1982

Jicken Wings said it has something to do with a familiar that has something to do with the year it was released. It was released in 1982, and the only familiars to come up on a search of 1982 are the Stab Bat (due to a "safety dance" reference, and Howling balloon monkey, over a "shock the monkey" reference. Littlebum2002 16:55, 27 April 2008 (CDT)

  • I would suggest the Mad Hatrack, since it's familiar number is 82. However, Cthules doesn't seem to have one. (Unless she's recently gone through a BM run?) I'll look further into it anyway. --Yrbanys 18:49, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

Also, we need to find out if it is a state-based trophy or a permanent one Littlebum2002 16:55, 27 April 2008 (CDT)

  • Jicken Wings has said a lot of things, and almost all of them are certainly nonsense. Also, judging by what Cthules has said, it's a state based trophy. --TechSmurf 17:19, 27 April 2008 (CDT)

Yes. It is a state-based trophy. I've tested this with multis, and Jicken Wings. (I didn't program any of the bot's hints.) --Cthules 08:39, 28 April 2008 (CDT) I stand corrected. Apparently some of my comments in chat did make it into the bot. Nothing useful though. --Cthules 08:47, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

I got this today after many many hours of trying stuff. However, I'm going to let Cthules run the show on hints because I was in the same boat as everyone else. All I'll say is keep trying, determination eventually pays off. (Please don't read anything special into this) --Scyld 01:53, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

Are we overcomplicating?

yes. --Cthules 08:23, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

I've double-checked the other heavily song related trophy (99 red balloons), and it's very straightforward. The trophy name is the song name: check, the trophy image is lyrics from the song: check. The action is the most natural: use.

Simple question: What's the dirtiest pieces of equipment? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phelyan (talkcontribs) on 09:29, 28 April 2008

  • Even simpler question: Has anyone put a load of complete outfits into their closet? Say, 11 or so? --Phelyan 08:26, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

I've been also thinking it might have something to do with the choice adventure in Whitey's Grove that sends you to the laundromat. No one seems to have suggested that here, but I'm in an HCO lead-in for a contest so I can't really try and test that line of thought. This is certainly worth following up on, more so than any of the mis-information that's been spewing forth from JW --Shoptroll 08:11, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

Going to the Grove would require using turns, so it cannot be this. Misstrain 10:52, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

  • Do we have this from a more reliable source than good ol' Jicken Wings? It sounds like this is state-based, but I'm just saying here. The only trophies that don't require spending any turns to acquire is the "insta-trophy" with the moderation trophy, little chickadee and elemental trophies close behind. --Shoptroll 15:53, 28 April 2008 (CDT)
    • yes, cthules, and she's no asshole. --Evilkolbot 15:57, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

I think we should start spading from the Spooky Pirate Skeleton, instead off from dirty laundry. Why would it be part of the trophy if it didn't have something to do with the process? --Shima 20:12, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

So, between Cthules's "Stop. Wasting. Turns." and Jicken Wings's myriad of, ahem, hints... We should take note not to look so far into things like this in the future. --TechSmurf 21:25, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

Trophy found!

Scyld (#33237) has indeed spaded the Dirty Laundry trophy, recorded to have been found early morning Monday, April 28, 2008. His familiar list is hidden, perhaps to prevent spoilers. Congrats, Scyld. --caseyweederman 12:00, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

eusst (#351116) discovered it apparently without any hints outside of this wiki. Congrats to IP spading team! --Cthules 15:39, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

• Add Percilus (#656850) to the list of players who have this trophy now --Cheezehog 20:08, 28 April 2008 (CDT) •And Mme (#1027812) --Cheezehog 20:20, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

Guys, crazy idea here, but why don't you stop giving idiotic hints that don't help and actually tell someone what is going on. You're not all special because you're in some super-awesome clan and "omg it is a secret". Quit the crap and either tell everyone or don't, without jerking chains. Honestly. --Vampiric 20:05, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

  • Calm down there. The trophy was given out as a birthday present by the PTB...not spaded immediately so the secrecy is sort of warranted. And it's a TRADITION that until the trophy is getting sorted out a lot, given in hints. I mean wait a week. everyone will have it. Otherwise quit whining and demanding things. That attitude gets you very little help from pretty much everyone if you ever need it in the future. Just sayin. --Ashallond 20:15, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

So it's a tradition to act arrogant to people whenever something new comes out? Thanks, I'll remember that next time this happens so I can do it to everyone too. Then I'll be cool! Thanks so much! --Vampiric 20:25, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

Looks like you've mastered the skill without even needing something to spoil. Superb! Think you can teach the rest of us? Incidentally, had you waited another 20 minutes, you would have seen the information added to the wiki. It's all updated now. Enjoy. --Flargen 20:28, 28 April 2008 (CDT)

I found the reference.

Eminem - Cleaning Out My Closet "I got some skeletons in my closet and I don't know if no one knows it"

This is an obvious reference to this rap song, because it contains skeletons, closet, and cleaning. no rly, what can go wrong?--Interdrama 04:10, 1 May 2008 (CDT)

  • Apart from the fact that it's an age old phrase? And the 'cleaning' bit is more than forced. I'd be more convinced if the image filename was dont_care_if_no_one_know_it.gif. --Phelyan 04:34, 1 May 2008 (CDT)
    • Agreed, not a reference - besides, there's already a very clear song reference listed which matches both the trophy name and image filename. --Quietust (t|c) 07:37, 1 May 2008 (CDT)
      • I don't know about where jick and co is, but that song is on the radio ALL the time around me for the last year or so. Prior to that, I hadn't heard it. --Plater (t|c) 07:53, 1 May 2008 (CDT)
      • I agree with Quietest on this. The Emeinen song does NOT reference 'kick them when they're up" Thus I have to go with the Henley song. Also, the Henley song is a MUCH better song.--Ashallond 20:12, 1 May 2008 (CDT)