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Force Locked Door: Tests your primary stat

Data for "Locked Door" when the option "Force the Door Open" is chosen

Highest stat that has failed: 51
Lowest stat that has passed: 29

Buffed Unbuffed Drunk Result Tries Date Source
25 21 0 failed 5 May 25, 2006 Greg1104
26 22 0 failed 4 May 26, 2006 Greg1104
27 23 0 failed 3 May 26, 2006 Greg1104
28 24 0 failed 1 May 26, 2006 Greg1104
28 25 0 failed 5 May 27, 2006 Greg1104
29 25 0 failed 4 May 27, 2006 Greg1104
29 26 0 failed 1 Nov 15, 2006 Teffania
31 31 0 failed 1 May 29, 2006 Greg1104
35 35 0 failed 1 May 31, 2006 Greg1104
38 38 0 failed 1 May 31, 2006 Greg1104
40 33 0 failed 2? Jan 27 , 2007 Teffania
47 39  ? failed 1 June 23, 2006 commiebat
48 36  ? failed 1 June 23, 2006 Krakhoar
51 41  ? failed 1 June 24, 2006 foobar
196 140 18 failed 2 Jan 29, 2009 peter50216
             
29 20 0 passed  ? July 23, 2006 Yupsi
29 25 0 passed 5 May 27, 2006 Greg1104
29 26 0 passed 2 Nov 19, 2006 Teffania
31 31 0 passed 2 May 29, 2006 Greg1104
33 27 0 passed 1 Nov 19, 2006 Teffania

Pick Locked Door: Tests Moxie-cum-Drunkeness?

Data for "Locked Door" when the option "Try to Pick the Lock" is chosen.

Buffed/Unbuffed columns refer to Moxie. For Passes the "Tries" column refers to the number of attempts required at one particular door before finally succeeding. Thus if you fail 3 times and then succeed, put "4" in the "Tries" column. For failures the "Tries" column refers to the number of failures in a row on one specific door.

Highest stat that has failed: 1561 (buffed), 1003 (unbuffed)
Lowest stat that has passed: 143 (buffed)

Buffed Unbuffed Drunk Result Tries Date Source
138 15 failed Aug 18, 2006 us3r1d
148 19 failed Aug 20, 2006 us3r1d
152 19 failed 1 Aug 21, 2006 us3r1d
152 19 failed 4 Aug 21, 2006 us3r1d
143 0 passed 1 Aug 19, 2006 us3r1d
148 0 passed 1 Aug 20, 2006 us3r1d
163 155 0 passed 3 Apr 11, 2013 Adam222
152 19 passed 2 Aug 20, 2006 us3r1d
148 19 passed 5 Aug 20, 2006 us3r1d
917 679 19 passed 7 Mar 02, 2013 kitsunegami
1431 681 19 passed 2 Mar 03, 2013 kitsunegami
1053 726 19 passed 3 Mar 18, 2013 kitsunegami
1053 726 19 passed 2 Mar 18, 2013 kitsunegami
1053 726 19 passed 2 Mar 18, 2013 kitsunegami
1561 743 19 passed 3 Mar 24, 2013 kitsunegami
1259 932 19 passed 1 Jun 18, 2013 kitsunegami
1259 932 19 passed 1 Jun 18, 2013 kitsunegami
1259 932 19 passed 3 Jun 18, 2013 kitsunegami
1263 935 19 passed 4 Jun 19, 2013 kitsunegami
1263 935 19 passed 2 Jun 19, 2013 kitsunegami
1271 940 19 passed 2 Jun 21, 2013 kitsunegami
1271 940 19 passed 1 Jun 21, 2013 kitsunegami
1282 949 19 passed 3 Jun 26, 2013 kitsunegami
1282 949 19 passed 1 Jun 26, 2013 kitsunegami
1282 949 19 passed 4 Jun 26, 2013 kitsunegami
1290 955 19 passed 1 Jun 29, 2013 kitsunegami
1290 955 19 passed 2 Jun 29, 2013 kitsunegami
1393 960 19 passed 1 Jul 1, 2013 kitsunegami
1393 960 19 passed 3 Jul 1, 2013 kitsunegami
1393 960 19 passed 2 Jul 1, 2013 kitsunegami
1330 985 19 passed 1 Jul 17, 2013 kitsunegami
1330 985 19 passed 1 Jul 17, 2013 kitsunegami
1330 985 19 passed 2 Jul 17, 2013 kitsunegami
1336 988 19 passed 1 Jul 19, 2013 kitsunegami
1336 988 19 passed 1 Jul 19, 2013 kitsunegami
1336 988 19 passed 1 Jul 19, 2013 kitsunegami
1336 988 19 passed 4 Jul 19, 2013 kitsunegami
1355 1003 19 passed 3 Jul 26, 2013 kitsunegami
1355 1003 19 passed 2 Jul 26, 2013 kitsunegami

Magic Shell: Myst (easy test)

Highest stat that has failed: 29
Lowest stat that has passed: 18

Buffed Unbuffed Result Date Source
23 19 failed May 24, 2006 Baltar
26 22 failed May 31, 2006 Greg1104
25 21 failed July 30, 2006 Baltar
29 29 failed (passed on second try) August 3, 2006 jaren80
37 32 failed (passed on third try) September 11, 2006 twasbrillig
         
19 19 passed July 22, 2006 Greg1104
22 21 passed May 26, 2006 Greg1104
24 19 passed May 24, 2006 Baltar
26 25 passed May 19, 2006 Tim teh pwner
35 35 passed May 19, 2006 Greg1104
27 21 passed July 30, 2006 Baltar
18 15 passed May 22, 2007 Tigger89

The Mystic Seal: Myst (medium test)

Highest stat that has failed: 41
Lowest stat that has passed: 25

Buffed Unbuffed Result Date Source
29 25 failed May 25, 2006 Baltar
30 27 failed June 23, 2006 Krakhoar- 2 tries
31 28 failed May 23, 2006 Greg1104
32 29 failed June 23, 2006 Brulak
38 30 failed July 9, 2006 Baltar
28 21 failed July 30, 2006 Baltar
29 26 failed July 31, 2006 grapes9
41 35 failed August 01, 2006 Seishun
         
25 21 passed September 1, 2006 Yupsi (on 7th try)
28 25 passed June 13, 2006 Yupsi
30 25 passed May 25, 2006 Baltar
31 28 passed May 23, 2006 Greg1104
39 31 passed July 9, 2006 Baltar
51 46 passed May 22, 2006 Hellion

A Hairier Barrier: Myst (hard test)

Highest stat that has failed: 47 (unconfirmed 60)
Lowest stat that has passed: 29

Buffed Unbuffed Result Date Source
28 25 failed (3x) (0 drunk) Nov 15, 2006 Teffania
30 25 failed (4x) June 10, 2006 Hellion
31 28 failed April 21, 2006 Mediaboy
33 27 failed April 27, 2006 Evilkolbot
33 26 failed August 1, 2006 Baltar
37 34 failed (4-5x) (0 drunk) Jun 9, 2007 beautyredefined
39 36 failed x2(0 drunk) November 24, 2006 Teffania
40 37 failed May 3, 2006 Evilkolbot
44 35 failed May 14, 2006 Hellion
46 33 failed (twice) June 25, 2006 commiebat
47 47 failed May 20, 2006 Greg1104
49 45 failed Apr 26, 2007 cypherpunks
34 29 failed (0 drunk) Jun 05, 2007 Baltar
40 36 failed, passed on second try (0 drunk) Jan 23, 2008 BMW
60  ? failed  ? copied from page
         
29 20 passed July 23, 2006 Yupsi
29 29 passed June 9, 2006 Greg1104
22 19 passed July 31, 2006 wexer9
22 19 passed July 31, 2006 Hellion
31 21 passed June 9, 2006 Yupsi
32 25 passed (1st try, 0 drunk) Nov 15, 2006 Teffania
35 28 passed April 27, 2006 Listen2Reason
35 31 passed June 24, 2006 foobar
37 34 passed on 5th or 6th try (0 drunk) Jun 9, 2007 beautyredefined
39 36 passed on 3rd try (0 drunk) November 24, 2006 Teffania
40 37 passed May 3, 2006 Evilkolbot
44 35 passed May 14, 2006 Hellion
44 35 passed May 20, 2006 Hellion
38 29 passed (0 drunk) Jun 05, 2007 Baltar
40 34 passed (15 drunk April 19, 2007 Feng Shweez

The Biggest Bathtub Ever: Muscle (easy test)

Highest stat that has failed: 31
Lowest stat that has passed: 17

Buffed Unbuffed Result Date Source
18 15 failed June 3, 2006 Greg1104
27 27 failed June 3, 2006 Greg1104
         
17 16 passed October 9, 2006 Yupsi
18 15 passed June 3, 2006 Greg1104
27 27 passed June 3, 2006 Greg1104
30 30 passed May 16, 2006 Greg1104
33 29 passed May 16, 2006 Hellion
37 31 passed May 22, 2006 Hellion
31 23 failed August 10, 2011 sceptre boy

Yet Another Troll: Muscle (medium test)

Highest stat that has failed: 41
Lowest stat that has passed: 24

Buffed Unbuffed Result Date Source
32 26 failed May 21, 2006 Hellion
36 25 failed June 19, 2006 MicheleColeman
37 34 failed June 30, 2006 Greg1104
39 36 failed August 10, 2006 foobar
40 22 failed October 24, 2006 Yendor
41 23 failed Oct 4, 2008 Yvain
41 31 failed Jan 21, 2012 AtlanteanScion
         
24 20 passed June 12, 2006 Greg1104
25 20 passed June 04, 2006 Krakhoar
26 23 passed May 30, 2006 Greg1104
31 21 passed May 29, 2006 Greg1104
32 26 passed May 21, 2006 Hellion
37 31 passed May 22, 2006 Hellion

Piledriver: Muscle (hard test)

Highest stat that has failed: 46
Lowest stat that has passed: 26

Buffed Unbuffed Drunk Result Tries Date Source
21 15 failed 3 June 2, 2006 Greg1104
23 23 failed 3 May 30, 2006 Greg1104
24 21 failed 1 July 10, 2006 CapriciousOne
25 25 failed 4 June 1, 2006 Greg1104
26 16 failed 1 June 4, 2006 Greg1104
27 21 failed 1 July 10, 2006 CapriciousOne
27 27 failed 3 June 2, 2006 Greg1104
28 25 failed 4 June 1, 2006 Greg1104
29 26 failed 2 June 1, 2006 Greg1104
33 30 failed 1 June 2, 2006 Hellion
35 32 failed 1 June 18, 2006 Baltar
36 25 failed 1 June 18, 2006 MicheleColeman
37 30 failed 1 October 27, 2006 Baltar
38 32 failed 1 June 24, 2006 MicheleColeman
42 27 failed 1 June 18, 2006 commiebat
42 35 failed 1 October 28, 2006 Baltar
43 29 failed 1 August 14, 2006 Yendor
43 40 failed 1 July 14, 2006 sors
46 36 12 failed 4 August 25, 2006 MicheleColeman
             
26 16 passed -- June 4, 2006 Greg1104
27 21 passed -- July 10, 2006 CapriciousOne
27 27 passed -- June 2, 2006 Greg1104
28 40 passed -- June 11, 2006 Greg1104
29 26 passed -- June 1, 2006 Greg1104
33 23 passed -- May 30, 2006 Greg1104
33 30 passed -- June 2, 2006 Hellion
34 20 passed -- May 5, 2007 JismBardBrunel
36 25 passed -- June 18, 2006 MicheleColeman
38 30 passed -- October 27, 2006 Baltar
43 35 passed -- October 28, 2006 Baltar
43 36 passed -- May 17, 2006 Hellion
51 46 18 failed -- January 18, 2010 Blastphemist
50 38 19 failed -- January 18, 2010 Nikki xx|-
50 31 10 failed -- June 22, 2011 127.0.0.1

Dungeon Fever: Moxie (easy test)

Highest stat that has failed: 28
Lowest stat that has passed: 20

Buffed Unbuffed Result Date Source
31 28 failed October 07, 2006 Sors
20 17 passed May 27, 2006 Greg1104
18 17 failed May 27, 2006 Greg1104 - 2 tries
20 17 failed May 27, 2006 Greg1104 - 3 tries
22 18 failed May 28, 2006 Greg1104
23 19 failed May 28, 2006 Greg1104
26 29 failed June 3, 2006 Greg1104
28 25 failed June 3, 2006 Greg1104
34 34 failed January 02, 2007 Deadgoat
30 27 failed, passed on 2nd try February 28, 2007 Andrew Unsustainable
         
20 17 passed May 27, 2006 Greg1104
32 27 passed May 23, 2006 Greg1104
39 22 passed May 20, 2006 Hellion
47 47 passed May 19, 2006 Greg1104

Badger Badger Badger Badger : Moxie (medium test)

Highest stat that has failed: 40
Lowest stat that has passed: 26

Buffed Unbuffed Result Date Source
26 24 failed July, 2006 Gedrean (11 tries)
27 30 failed June 5, 2006 Greg1104
28 30 failed June 5, 2006 Greg1104
29 22 failed July 7, 2006 Sors
35 32 failed Nov 23, 2006 Mokkan
40 25 failed May 31, 2007 iman2464
         
26 24 passed July, 2006 Gedrean
27 27 passed June 1, 2006 Greg1104
31 18 passed June 7, 2006 Yupsi
31 34 passed May 24, 2006 Greg1104
39 31 passed May 16, 2006 Hellion
51 29 passed May 22, 2006 Hellion

Smooth Criminal: Moxie (hard test)

Highest stat that has failed: 45
Lowest stat that has passed: 28

Buffed Unbuffed Result Date Source
31 25 failed June 2, 2006 Greg1104 (5 tries)
44 37 failed May 16, 2006 Greg1104
45 26 failed Aug 18, 2006 Greycat
43 37 failed, passed on second try (0 drunk) Jan 23, 2008 BMW
49 49 failed, passed on second try (3 drunk) Aug 28, 2011 Dkohler
         
28 18 passed September 1, 2006 Yupsi (on 6th try)
31 25 passed June 2, 2006 Greg1104
33 29 passed June 2, 2006 Greg1104
35 24 passed May 31, 2006 Greg1104
39 31 passed May 16, 2006 Hellion
40 23 passed July 15, 2006 foobar
44 37 passed May 16, 2006 Greg1104
49 37 failed Feb 27, 2009 Deathprog23

Notes on Helping Improve This Data

As you can see from the Locked Door data in particular, as I get a better idea where the breakpoints are I'm doing multiple tries in the area where I think they are to try and nail down exactly where they are. This is the most useful test others can try. For example, if you are facing the Harrier Barrier, where the lowest stat that has passed is a 29, the best test you could do would be to get your Myst to 28 and try to pass multiple times there.

Right now the biggest part of the data that could be improved are the Muscle tests; they are harder to fine-tune because there are so few things in the game that adjust them by small amounts, compared to the plentiful Moxie and Myst items that work in the +/-3 or less range. --Greg1104 01:03, 1 August 2006 (CDT)

New data submissions

For those who don't want to edit the table (understandably!), you can leave a note here. Please be sure to report all of the buffed/unbuffed data as in the samples above; while there' doesn't appear to be any patter in the unbuffed stat we've been fooled before by restrictions there so I don't want to preclude later analysis there. --Greg1104 01:03, 1 August 2006 (CDT)

The Locked Door does not seem to be a straight test against Moxie when trying to pick the lock. For example, I currently have 138 Moxie and I failed at it today. This is pretty normal: I usually fail about half the time and I never muck about in the Daily Dungeon till my stats are well past 60.

Does drunkeness affect this, since I usually do all my drinking before adventuring and my drunkeness is usually at 19? I'll try the Dungeon before drinking for the next few days to see if that affects it.-us3r1d

Well, I still failed at 15 drunkeness.-us3r1d

Today I picked the lock first try on two doors with 143 Moxie and at 0 drunkeness.-us3r1d

Today I picked the lock first try on one door with 148 Moxie and at 0 drunkeness, then did my drinking and failed the next one with the same Moxie but 19 drunkenness.-us3r1d

Today I, with 152 Moxie and 19 drunkenness, it took two tries to pick the lock on the first door and 5 tries on the second.-us3r1d

I just managed to get past the Ogre (Smooth Criminal), with 22 base Moxie, 26 buffed. Took me ten tries, but in the end I made it. I'm fairly sure I managed to do the same a few days ago, but I wasn't keeping track then. --Suneagle 18:54, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

It took me 5 tries to get through piledriver (4 failures then finally succes) at 46 buffed muscle and 12 drunkeness. Previous high in the chart was 43 muscle, so I really thought I'd have no problems! I suggest that we add a drunkeness column to the stat tables. Any objections? --MicheleColeman 11:58, 26 August 2006 (CDT)

  • The other two hard tests maxed out at 44 and 47; The fact that Piledriver was at 43 was just a fluke from not collecting enough data, it seemed obvious that the breakpoint was probably 47 or above.

I can guarantee you that all data I collected was at 0 drunkness--I did most of my collection with two multis who were Oxygenarian at the time, which is how I got so many days worth of tests done without the stats going up much. It also lowered the number of possible variables, like drunkness, that might be influencing things.

I think it's a great idea to analyze that as well, I just wonder whether mixing it all into the regular charts is the best approach. It's hard enough for people to do updates to those things as it is. Also, you really need a 3-D chart to visualize the relationships once you put that variable in there. And the undrunk data is still far from complete--the Badger Badger stuff still isn't right.

However, now that this has come up as apparently being significant, certainly a warning to everyone collecting data is appropriate. Putting drunkness in the table at least makes people aware of that influence before they post a failure. I make push a multi or two through the game testing every day again, only drinking every day but not eating to slow their progress down. It will be just like some parts of college again. --Greg1104 11:02, 21 September 2006 (CDT)

  • Just failed the Smooth Criminal test with 50 buffed moxie, 30 base. Here's proof. Passed the test on my second try. --Dalgar 12:21, 15 January 2007 (CST)
  • Just passed the Locked Door (picking the lock) with a 23 buffed, 20 unbuffed Moxie and 12 Drunkenness. First try. -MTPockets 09:59, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
  • Just failed Badger Badger with 37 buffed Moxie (24 base), passed on second attempt. --Groli 17:03, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
  • Don't know how to add stuff to the table, so here's my experience from today...failed at Smooth Criminal with a 51 buffed moxie (29 unbuffed). Passed it on the second try with no changes to stat. Jan. 13, 2008.
  • Failed badger badger badger badger with 40 buffed moxie, 29 unbuffed. Passed on second try.--Serra725 16:48, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Failed Piledriver with 47 buffed mus, 42 unbuffed. Passed on THIRD attempt with no stat changes.--Noims 13:23, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Failed to pick Room 2: Locked Door with 99(89) moxie and 19 drunkenness. 5 attempts failed, sixth succeeded. 74 muscle, 127(116) myst, pastamancer. --Raijinili (talk) 06:56, 23 February 2013 (UTC)