Talk:Cybernetic Muscles

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might just be me, or just RNG strangeness, but this seemed to give me a physical damage boost in the region of +25 or so (which was the familiar's weight at the time)

Far more spading needed, but thought I'd at least note it down. --Denarius 00:30, 1 December 2007 (CST)

Mine's 29 pounds and I'm doing all of 24 damage to giants right now. It was RNG weirdness, or there's a more complicated factor involved. --Flargen 00:34, 1 December 2007 (CST)

There's definitely a melee boost, but its a bit weird.

  • It did not appear to affect unarmed combat. (I did 8 damage against ducks (1+melee bonuses) both with and without the effect.)
  • With the effect, I equipped a bar whip (power 10) and 333-334 damage against Worm Wood monsters. Without the effect, I dropped to 302-304.

A Melee Damage increase should affect both. A Muscle increase, if not high enough to push Muscle over the 4*ML level needed when unarmed, would only affect the latter and not the former.

Base muscle was 319, and buffed muscle was 418. My hypothesis is that this adds 10% Muscle, but it does not change the display. I think we had a similar problem with the Moon June Spooned effect when it first appeared.--Foggy 14:04, 2 December 2007 (CST)

I think Foggy's right - this morning was the first time I noticed an effect from this buff other than changing the combat text. Mus went from 95(66) to 102(66), which would be 10% rounded up. Possibly was doing this before but not displaying properly.--Dipsy 05:53, 3 December 2007 (CST)

The display has been fixed...I'm showing a 10% increase in base muscle (516 (320) with, 484 (320) without)--Foggy 08:10, 3 December 2007 (CST)

  • Ah, very nice. This would seem extremely likely to be the only positive of the effect, as it's comparable (or distinctly superior) to the power of the buffs provided by a Sweet Nutcracker or Ancient Yuletide Troll. As such I've removed the request for spading on the page, though feel free to add it back should there seem reasonable cause to suspect anything extra. Or someone has accurately spaded something else. --Flargen 17:29, 3 December 2007 (CST)