Talk:A Pool Table (VIP Lounge)

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According to several spading attempts, the mechanics behind the pool table seem to be tied to several factors. Equipment, buffs, and the number of time you have gotten the "A Shark's Chum" adventure. This count seems to carry across ascensions, luckily.

Equipment that improves your odds of winning:

Buffs that improve your odds of winning:

I am going to get so much crap for all this spoiling on the wiki --James111222 05:02, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Does it matter which choice you pick in A Shark's Chum? --Missingno 02:03, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
    • I'd really like to know that too. Can anyone speak from experience? --Obeliks 14:09, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Does falling-down drunk decrease your odds? I lost three times in a row to someone with no relevant equipment (his equipment was visible). I had all of the equipment and effects shown here. But I also had drunkenness of 25. --Kpsmith67 23:00, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

  • Falling-down drunk must decrease your odds. After rollover (and sobriety), I took the table easily and have since won the next 62 consecutive games. --Kpsmith67 16:06, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
    • I'm quite sure that falling-down drunk does decrease your odds. For months my clan mates and I haven't had streaks longer than 10 even though I've been getting A Shark's Chum everyday, but I noticed every time I forgot my nightcap I kept the table longer. In addition the last two times I have ascended I have had very long streaks for the first while when I haven't been over drinking. During this time I also haven't been getting A Shark's Chum adventure everyday like I usually do. Does anyone know if the amount of pre-falling-down drunkenness has an effect (i.e. 5 tipsiness makes you worse than 0 or 4)? --Fineldar 17:57, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

After having well established pool table records im my clan for quite some time, I can assure you that stats 100% have an effect on the winner and how long you can hold on to it. My old record was in the teens in my clan. Now I have buffed myself with just about every stat buff in the game and am well over 80 wins and climbing. So either stats play a part, or, the quantity of buffs you have on plays a part. --Dreamthief 02:48, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I have a feeling that the clan itself might have a lot do with how often you win. For instance, in one clan I visit a lot, I routinely win 40-50 games in a row, with varying equipment/buffs (none of which I'm aware have any effect). Furthermore, 6/10 times, I will have much lower stats than the person challenging me. Journe 07:42, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

  • Probably just against who you face, and whether /they/ have buffs or equipment. LordKass 21:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Do stats affect this at all? I seem to be winning more since I reached level 30... Maybe it is just my imagination. --Mrfred 23:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I cleaned up the effects a bit. It is my first edit so please rollback if it doesn't look nice. Shisoru0 23:10, 22 April 2011 (EST)

The lucky rabbit's foot does not improve your odds of winning. Also, the Staff of Fats does not enhance the pool cue, but gives its own bonus, which is superior. See Pool Skill for more details. --Baltar (talk) 02:26, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Random Notes

I really want to know what happens when you get 37 wins in a row--tophat 10:36, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Can Hardcore players use this? --Sparksol (t|c) 11:51, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind. Hadn't read the forum post yet. (Yes, it can.) --Sparksol (t|c) 12:01, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

is it random? at all?

Added the reference section and a possible reference. It seemed to me that the mentioning of sitting out the next games of pool with your hands in your pockets might be a play on the slang phrase "pocket pool". I didn't put what it is slang for in the references section because I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to post here. --Gleezus 19:37, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Not exactly sure where to put this in the page at the moment, so I'm just going to post it here for the wikignomes to assimilate it in due time.

If you challenge yourself to a game of pool, you get the following message:

  • You play a game of pool against yourself. Unsurprisingly, you win! Inevitably, you lose.

[You then receive your buff as usual, and your winning streak is unaffected. Tested on two different play styles, found identical messages.] Slackerjack 03:09, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Looks like you're in charge of the table.

I got this when no-one had won a game of pool. I assume it's the message that shows up when you're the current Pool Champion too.

The following showed up under "high scores":

  • No clan member has maintained a streak.

When you play pool against yourself your own avatar appears on both sides of the table.

--Banana lord 09:21, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Someone on the forums mentioned winning 37 times in a row I don't believe there was a special message, I can't confirm it though.--Banana lord 05:59, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

My streak in HoD has reached 126 wins. I've not observed any "special" messages so far (aside from the usual event message for each pool game). I think it's just a fun little leaderboard, nothing more. Slackerjack 15:45, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Personally I think its not random and i think there is a system to it, so i made a table, someone whos good at tables on the wiki work your magic and make this good.

Challenger | Controller | Winner

Stylish | Stratigic | Controller

Aggrssive | Agressive | Controller

Stratigic | Agressive | Challenger So yeah, maybe its like rock paper scissors, i dont know... --Coolness 17:59, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it's based on stats, I was facing a lvl 29 pasta mancer with these stats:

Muscle: 464 Mysticality: 796 (789) Moxie: 480 (470)

against my level 31 disco bandit with these stats:

Mus: 1776 (655) Mys: 1671 (655) Mox: 5249 (905)

and I lost the "stylish" play. I didn't buff the other stats when i played and lost on those as well. Just some random notes if anyone wants to add them to the page or use them for confirmation. --Jahbreeze 22:13, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I've been getting the Shark's Chum semi-rare adventure almost every time I can. I lost track of how many times I've received it some time ago but I'm sure it's at the very least over 30. I am now at 144 wins at the pool table and no one can beat me now, even without me wearing any gear or having any buffs. I'm not sure if people are just not trying with full buffs and gear, but I think the Shark's Chum either plays a bigger part in winning or I've done it enough times where it overrides all the other pool buffs and gear. Bluethunder 13:40, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Got a little oddity this morning: Two players both beat me at the same time :) --ArgghFW 08:36, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Optimal drunkeness

The pool mechanics notes state: Drunkenness should be at 10. Was this spaded out somewhere? It doesn't have any links or corresponding discussion here. --Fxer 20:04, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

  • On Talk:The Pool Table is it discussed, but links to actual spading results are not given. And, FWIW, being 10 drunk was key to me winning at the Tavern pool table. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 22:36, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

As a zombie, I seem to be winning more often than my normal at 3 drunkenness. This makes me think that perhaps, instead of Drunkenness at 10, It might have to be at '50% of max drunkenness.' The zombie's max is 5, so 5*0.5 = 2.5, which rounds up to 3. A regular player's max is 20, at least after steel... hence 10. Thoughts? --Lxndr 06:25, 5 September 2012 (CEST)

  • While that's always a possibility, maybe the reason for you winning more games than before is either just luck or has to do with the fact that most likely most of your clannies are Zombie Masters as well, suffering from the same restrictions and evening out the odds. From my experience, Jick & Co. (like other developers) avoid work that doesn't need to be done and rather develop new content. If it was 50% drunkenness rather than a static 10, I would hope that the original spaders would have noticed, but there's no guarantee for that. In that scenario the pool-table could have been either updated since the spading was done or the spading simply is incomplete. Either way I'd like to postpone any update on the page before more players can support this theory. --Yatsufusa 07:26, 5 September 2012 (CEST)

Winning Streaks

Fresh pool table:

Longest Winning Streaks
No clan member has maintained a streak.

After playing myself three times, same contents. What triggers win/loss streaks? A second player? Day 2? --Club (#66669) (Talk) 00:23, 3 December 2011 (CET)

  • If I play by myself, I have no winning streak. I need to beat someone else. Every person that plays me and loses adds 1 to my streak. --Erich 04:36, 3 December 2011 (CET)