# Talk:"DRINK ME" potion

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## reflection drop mechanic?

- so, if i use 19 of these, then soft green echo eyedrop antidote away the turns of Down the Rabbit Hole, when i use another one will i get a guaranteed 20 reflections of maps? or will i have to adventure somewhere else for 380 turns? --Evilkolbot 17:40, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- Jick said on the forums that each potion you use increases a "number of maps you can get" value by 1 and each map you get lowers it by 1, but the drop rate always stays the same. It just means that if you finish all your turns and still have maps left to get, then they'll still be potentially obtainable the next time you drink a potion. This means every potion you drink entitles you to one map, which you will eventually get, even if it doesn't drop during those 20 turns of the effect. So to answer your question, no. Drinking multiple potions does not increase the drop chance. --Melon 17:55, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- i understood that the drop mechanic was that if you use one potion you're guaranteed to get one and only one map in the twenty turns of the effect. which means that if you adventure elsewhere until you have one turn left, you are guaranteed a map to drop in that one turn. my reading of jick's post is that if you don't get one in those twenty turns (because you went off and did something else,) the one you missed will be added to the one you're guaranteed in the next twenty turns of the effect. so, the next time you adventure down the rabbit hole for twenty turns, in those twenty turns you'll get two maps. can you see where i went with this and why? in not letting you lose out on maps, it appears that he's opened a loophole to let you get only maps all the time. i am of course mistaken, but how? --Evilkolbot 19:18, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- My understanding is that the maps are a normal 10% drop with a conditional added on, that the number of potions you've drank this ascension is higher than the number of maps you've received. It's just a normal item drop in all other respects. If you neck all 19 potions at once, you'd expect to get all of the maps in 190 turns in the garden on average (I don't think item drop modifiers work). If you drink all 19 potions, SGEEA all those turns of the buff away and then drink another, you'd expect to get 2 maps during those 20 turns on average. The other 18 maps will be waiting for you with a 10% drop chance the next time you adventure there.--Melon 19:43, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- Actually here's a simpler way of putting it: If you are entitled to any number of maps, then they will drop one at a time 10% of the time. --Melon 19:53, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- so there's roughly a 1 in 8 chance of not getting a map in your twenty turns no matter how many maps you're due. i see. --Evilkolbot 20:20, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

- i understood that the drop mechanic was that if you use one potion you're guaranteed to get one and only one map in the twenty turns of the effect. which means that if you adventure elsewhere until you have one turn left, you are guaranteed a map to drop in that one turn. my reading of jick's post is that if you don't get one in those twenty turns (because you went off and did something else,) the one you missed will be added to the one you're guaranteed in the next twenty turns of the effect. so, the next time you adventure down the rabbit hole for twenty turns, in those twenty turns you'll get two maps. can you see where i went with this and why? in not letting you lose out on maps, it appears that he's opened a loophole to let you get only maps all the time. i am of course mistaken, but how? --Evilkolbot 19:18, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

- Jick said on the forums that each potion you use increases a "number of maps you can get" value by 1 and each map you get lowers it by 1, but the drop rate always stays the same. It just means that if you finish all your turns and still have maps left to get, then they'll still be potentially obtainable the next time you drink a potion. This means every potion you drink entitles you to one map, which you will eventually get, even if it doesn't drop during those 20 turns of the effect. So to answer your question, no. Drinking multiple potions does not increase the drop chance. --Melon 17:55, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Odd, just got two reflections of a map from a single drink me potion. Can anyone confirm this is possible? - AvangionQ 15:01, 21 April 2012 (CEST)

- It should be possible only if you've used a "DRINK ME" potion before and didn't get a map. Even using a potion just so you could get a Hatter buff increases the "number of maps you can get" value. --timrem 16:42, 21 April 2012 (CEST)