Category talk:Unrecognized Plurals

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Jick and Scully have stated that anything that doesn't get a special plural, should just get an "s" (or "es"?) added to the end of it.--Plater (t|c) 00:04, 23 December 2007 (CST)

  • Er, how would we know something didn't have a special plural unless we explicitly verified it? --Bagatelle 09:10, 23 December 2007 (CST)

Shouldn't the Colander of Em-er'il be under the "plural currently impossible to determine" section since they can't be traded? --Sevault 17:52, 7 March 2007 (CST)

can't you pulverize more than one at the same time or something? --CG1:t,c,e 18:09, 7 March 2007 (CST)

Dictionaries?

I have an unascended character that somehow managed to get two abridged dictionaries. I have verified through meatpasting/untinkering that the abridged dictionary has a plural of "abridged dictionaries", the plural of bridge is "bridges", and the plural of dictionary is "dictionaries". Do I need to generate/retain/present screen shots or screen captures or any sort of proof? I tried to edit the metadata for the abridged dictionary, but the preview still showed the plural as unknowable. Can anyone involved with determining plurals suggest what I should do to get this information recorded? --Stiew 23:21, 22 June 2007 (CDT)

  • It's been recorded into the relevant data pages. --Quietust (t|c) 00:22, 23 June 2007 (CDT)

Impossible

Is it safe to assume that the only items for which it is impossible to determine plurals are ones which cannot be traded? --Gausie 5:07, 7 July 2007 (CDT)

  • Nope. Some can be autosold, e.g., Red Balloon of Valor. --Bagatelle 09:25, 7 July 2007 (CDT)
  • But it isn't impossible to get two of them - just no-one has yet! --Gausie 10:22, 7 July 2007 (CDT)
    • True, but it still answers your quesetion. Untradable items' plurals can be found by Pulverizing two of them (if they're equippable), make two of them at the same time, (if they can be cooked, etc.), autoselling two of them, or buying two of them at once from NPC stores. Also, it's under the list of categories because someone put "?" in the metadata. This doesn't mean it's impossible to determine, it just means that it hasn't been determined yet. --CG1:t,c,e 10:32, 7 July 2007 (CDT)
    • Ah, I think I see what Gausie is getting at. Non-tradable is a necessary but not sufficient condition for not being able to determine plurals. What a mouthful... With which I agree. --Bagatelle 11:02, 7 July 2007 (CDT)

Other methods

I suppose /cook /mix /ply /smith /paste all work if you already know the recipe. I checked /smith and it works. I have to run, so someone else please verify all the rest and add them. Also, /chug can be used for drinks as well.--Muhandes 01:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

The new sig generators make it possible to look up plurals from anyone's collection. Just tweak the URLs appropriately. —Yendor 22:38, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

New Method

Once you have access to the Dwarven Factory Complex, a new method of finding plurals is possible, using A Strange Chamber and URL manipulation. Use this -- javascript:void(mainpane.location="dwarfcontraption.php?action=dochamber&howmany=2&whichitem=X");

Where X is the ID of any item in your inventory. This includes items that you only get one of (like the stone rose) -- it will still show you the plural. Note that this was recently fixed to remove a bug where you could get the names and plurals of any item, including items you didn't have in your inventory. I've recorded the plurals of all items (Up to the point where this bug was fixed). Released items (including Custom items) will have their plurals put in, while unreleased items will not. I'm not spoiling unreleased content, so don't ask. --GoldS 06:01, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

  • Amazing! Great job GoldS.--Foggy 13:28, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Update: This method no longer works. Trying to put in 2 of an item you only have 1 of no longer gives you the plural, or any message for that matter. Boooo! Boooo, I say! --GoldS 13:00, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

  • At least the 5 year backlog has now been cleared.--Toffile 21:48, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh, by the way, I have plurals for unreleased items up to 4291. So, when and if those items are released, I'll fill them in. --GoldS 21:25, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

  • I use URL manipulation as a way of life in KOL ("Usage: do-quicky /URI [ POSTDATA ]" using KOLNUM and PWD from enviornment), but I almost never think of most of these exploit tests. (I did try feeding lots of junk to my Stocking Mimic, though.) Good Job. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 00:58, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


I believe i have an even better way of doing this; putting several of the same item IN YOUR CLOSET, that skips the drag of buying 2 identical expensive items [i.e. exotic parrot egg]. --The ErosionSeeker 13:53, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

 POST /closet.php HTTP/1.1
 pwd=(secret)&action=put&howmany1=2&whichitem1=4271
I get: "Volartta's bellbottoms (1) moved from inventory to closet." With no N. O. Beer:
 POST /closet.php HTTP/1.1
 pwd=(secret)&action=put&howmany1=2&whichitem1=1047
I get: "You haven't got any of that item in your inventory." How can we get the plural without having purchased several exotic parrot eggs? --Club (#66669) (Talk) 19:42, 28 July 2010 (UTC)