User talk:Flargen

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Spaz Attacks Go Here

For one, slashes have spaces between them such as "Myst / Moxie", not "Myst/Moxie." You're not trying to say "or", you're trying to say "and" and perhaps you should say "and". Are you worried you'll run out of space?

On potions, it is essential information that potion of gr8tness and tomato juice of powerful power stack with equalizer potions and increase based on the equalized stat. Omitting that is like taking the Gerbil out... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bub (talk • contribs) on 03:17, 13 March 2008

Learn to sign your talk page posts. --Flargen 23:31, 12 March 2008 (CDT)

History of Loathing

• For explanation on why your edit was reverted, see Talk:Tuesday or just Tuesday: the history of loathing is pretty much a log of all announcements. --CG1||| 18:14, 18 March 2008 (CDT)
  • Yes, I was probably confusing it with Tuesday. Though my other point of there being a lot of missing stuff (if we were to include minor updates) remains valid. Especially for 2008, and I'm guessing further back as well. --Flargen 19:33, 18 March 2008 (CDT)
    • Well, I guess I'll go here and here and try to fix what's missing. --CG1||| 12:02, 19 March 2008 (CDT)
      • Done: people seemed to do a better job at keeping track of trivial updates in 2007, so that's that. I think. --CG1|||

Guy made of bees

Who is TPTB, that's not an acronym for Jick or Mr. Skull head. Why is this person the authority here? I am admittedly new to this wiki.

And unintentional or not it IS a direct parallel, this "It's not a reference to Candyman!" seams to have become a personal issue.

--Gwydeon 20:19, 1 April 2008 (PDT)

• TPTB means The Powers That Be, and that means Jick, Skully, and crew. If, as Flargen said, they said it wasn't a reference, it shouldn't be there. A coincidence does not a reference make. --TechSmurf 00:25, 2 May 2008 (CDT)
• Riff more specifically. See the page that the comment in the page tells you to. He flatly denies this being a reference to CandyMan. A coincidence is all. The closest it comes to being a reference is that he may have acquired some knowledge about CandyMan and its story through communal knowledge; but even this wasn't his real inspiration. Allowing coincidental things to appear in references is likely to lead to madness, as there about a 100 of those for any given item/adventure/whatever in the game. So the wiki limits it to deliberate references on the part of the game's creators/writers. This means, for example, that we had to remove the seemingly obvious reference to Futurama in unidentified jerky; the TPTB have said that isn't true, so it was removed it. --Flargen 00:28, 2 May 2008 (CDT)
• Fair enough, its just so close... Ah well I'm probably not the first or last to try to do that. Sorry again for the trouble --Gwydeon 20:40, 5 May 2008 (PDT)

Familiar Percentages

I've been finding that the chance a familiar will successfully attack, if it's like the lime, is 10*(ceiling(wt/N))+M%, where N is 4, 5, or 6, and M is some multiple of 10, typically 0. I've been trying to ascertain two key datapoints: what's the likelihood of it attacking in the first place, and if it can miss, what's the likelihood of it missing. Which is why I phrased the elf's formula that way... 33% chance of attacking, 10*(ceiling(wt/6))+30 to actually hit.--Foggy 16:24, 17 May 2008 (CDT)

Yeah, I understood where the final formula came from. Just that most of the entries have a +0 bonus after the ceiling, so it was a little surprising that it had a "whopping" +30. Of course, it's also a little weird that it both doesn't always act and sometimes misses even when it does. --Flargen 16:44, 17 May 2008 (CDT)

Maze of Sewers

Just a heads up for something to take a look into. I think the CHUMs drop different items. For example, the CHUM holding a knife drops the CHUM knife, and the CHUM holding the lantern drops the lantern; but the CHUM holding a knife will not drop a lantern... etc... So I think they should be four different CHUMs. Let me know if you find otherwise. Thanks. - Rahmuss 00:07, 5 July 2008 (CDT)

As Quietust has remarked, all of the CHUMs are identical with respect to On The Trail. People originally thought much the same thing about hobos (normals and elementals), until it was observed that any hobo could drop any item (appropriate to the zone). People haven't spent as much time in the sewers, so it's not quite as obvious that the same thing holds for CHUMS, but this does mean that the burden of proof isn't really mine (but rather those who think the items are image dependent). --Flargen 00:24, 5 July 2008 (CDT)

HTML To Wikitables

• So, it's not quite a script, but find/replace in Wordpad makes the conversion process go a lot faster for me. Replace:
  • <table with {|
  • <td> with |
  • </tr> with |-
  • </td> with... Nothing at all! Which effectively strips them all.
  • <tr> with... Nothing! Again!
  • </table> with |}
• That just leaves a few blank lines and a stray > at the beginning to remove. Also, you rock for helping eradicate HTML tables. --TechSmurf 01:22, 4 June 2008 (CDT)
  • Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I was doing. Still mind-numbingly repetitive, and subject to several mis-types along the way of clearing out/adding the extra line breaks and such. Especially on such a large table. And you're welcome. Saw you had just done such a conversion, and I knew the compendiums were using html tables from having added the Knott Slanding earlier in the day. --Flargen 01:29, 4 June 2008 (CDT)
    • Hasn't anyone heard of Google? Need to be careful piped links aren't escaped though, so do a diff before committing. --Bagatelle 16:32, 4 June 2008 (CDT)
      • News to me. When did this pop up? A few weeks ago? --Flargen 16:35, 4 June 2008 (CDT)

I think I one I used (can't remember--too long ago) to convert some of the equipment tables was this one. Testing on the adding machine scroll pages, it didn't drop blank cells or strip formatting, although it does have an irritating habit of centring the whole table by default and making inane changes to the source attributes. Funny how I don't remember that happening. It also handled the DB skill table better than the other converter you were using, though it did colour the whole table with the first row's background, which is easier to fix than checking for missing cells or broken lists.

On an entirely unrelated note, did you get a chance to check the stacking on the memento? I've got a spare imitation nice watch I can lend you, if not. --Bagatelle 14:38, 12 July 2008 (CDT)

• Oh, I forgot to ask about getting the nice watch when I had a chance last night. If I don't get around to that in a few hours I'll take you up on that loan. Guess that means I'll have to reveal my super-secret in-game identity for that. Not like I'm anyone special.
  
  And I am at least getting used to the quirks of my current converter; most of it is stuff I can fix/get around by simple find/replaces, at least once I figured out what the heck it was doing wrong. I'll check that one out and maybe look at a couple of others. Sounds like these two converters might have been written with the coder's specific needs and preferences in mind. --Flargen 16:48, 12 July 2008 (CDT)

&nbsp;

A reminder to be careful about dropping these... It looks fine on Firefox (and I presume Opera, which I think you use), but through some finicky behaviour I don't understand, IE renders the cell without a border (e.g., asparagus stir-fry). Not that we care about IE users, but let's... pretend. --Bagatelle 05:48, 21 July 2008 (CDT)

• Ah, duly noted. I do indeed tend to forget about IE users. Long ago I used to always keep non-breaking spaces in empty entries, back when I actually used IE. Ah, memories. --Flargen 05:49, 21 July 2008 (CDT)

Stench Nugget Divs

I'm using Firefox, and the div tags in Stench Nugget (and the others) split the list up into 4 equal columns. Though I just checked it in IE and apparently the tag does a whole lot of nothing. Yay, browsers! --TechSmurf 01:50, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

• Yes. If you look at the div's definition, it includes the string "moz", clearly indicating that it is mozilla specific. It is not supported by any other browser. --Flargen 02:45, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Recipe

Yeah, I screwed up. Not using my standard comp, and left-shift is broken on the keyboard. Also, I'd keep my eye on 2 of the following: black greaves, clockwork sphere, or pygmy spear for the final recipes.--Toffile 05:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• Ah, no problem. We all make silly mistakes at times. I must make at least 3 on my typical day of editing. And, yeah, those sound highly probably for other grimacite recipes. Especially since they were made meatsmithing components right before the raffle house reopened. --Flargen 06:03, 9 November 2008 (UTC)