Talk:Toy space helmet

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What does "mostly accurate battle statistics" actually mean??? --Angel 05:45, 7 December 2006 (CST)

I've had opponent hit points in the form: "Oponent HP: [hitpoints of opponent]", and information like "Your opponent is much nimbler/stronger than you". --JimGamma 14:42, 7 December 2006 (GMT)

It means that it is accurate most of the time.

• Mostly accurate. Based on what I've seen fighting the Sorceress, there's a certain amount of error in its HP reports - probably something like 0-5%, though I wouldn't be surprised if it was never 100% accurate. (Except in those cases where the required error would be less than a whole number, maybe.) --Id the Mildly Confused 17:20, 7 December 2006 (CST)
• 100 data points worth of spading (in the Gallery, if anyone cares) shows up to 10% inaccuracy, assuming no HP variation from Kittiwake's HP data as reported by the Greasemonkey script, without any +ML effects. Average error is around 3.4%. The helmet reported the "actual" value fairly often.--MrConspiracy 21:31, 9 December 2006 (CST)
  • Monster stats do vary, though, don't they? If they don't, great; but if they do, the best bet is probably to throw one of these on and go fight her Naughtiness <MaxHP200 or >MaxHP300, preferably using the trick noted below.

Here's an interesting tidbit: if you select "(choose a skill)" in combat while wearing the toy space helmet, the helmet will still give you a random bit of information even though you'll also get the "that doesn't make any sense" message and no combat will transpire. You can use this trick to get all three of the helmet's messages each round of combat. --Jacobm 14:53, 8 December 2006 (CST)

I've also received "Opponent is somewhat stronger than you." Fighting procrastination giant with Muscle around 131...--Adbax 00:37, 9 December 2006 (CST)

• Lost the sugar rush effect, now (buffed) muscle is 127, and I get "Opponent is a little bit stronger than you." for a procrastination giant after a few more adventures. Unbuffed muscle is 117. I would assume it would be based off of buffed, but you know what happens when you assume.--Adbax 00:56, 9 December 2006 (CST)

Messages

I think maybe we should combine all the messages under "noted" into one bulletpoint. It would make the page less crowded. --Sevault 01:08, 10 December 2006 (CST)

I removed the part about "only tower monsters", because I got "Your toy space helmet bleeps, and displays 'Opponent is much stronger than you.' on the helmet's visor." against a MechaMech. --MC Scared of Bees 09:23, 10 December 2006 (CST)

Stronger seems to refer to muscularity, and agility seems to refer to moxie.--RocketSniper 12:13, 10 December 2006 (CST)

Hmm, I would assume so but look at my tests with varying moxie going from 83 to 88 and then two fights at 107, everything else kept constant:

117, 100, 83

me4t begZ0r
~83, 84+little, 85+little, 86+little, 87+little

1335 HaXx0r
83-little, ~86 (83)

Flaming Troll
~83, ~84, ~85, ~86, ~87, ~107

XXX pr0n
83-somewhat 85-little, 86-little, 88-somewhat

Lamz0r N00b
83-little, 84-little, 86-little, 87-little, 107-little

Spam Witch
~83, ~84, ~85, ~86, ~87, ~107

Anime Smiley
83-little, 84-little, ~85, 86-somewhat

Whats interesting is that results stay constant if I keep my moxie constant, so it's not random variance. Perhaps there's something to the "mostly accurate" description?--Dehstil (t|c) 00:03, 16 December 2006 (CST)

Accuracy

I've gotten up to ±7.5% for HP variance which appears to be distributed normally. Anyone get the same?--Dehstil (t|c) 23:50, 10 December 2006 (CST)

Anyone want to find out exactly what percentage range are "somewhat stronger" etc? These readings don't vary from round to round from what I've seen so far. Again, anyone else get different?--Dehstil (t|c) 23:54, 10 December 2006 (CST)

References

I somewhat doubt that it's purely a Star Trek reference. I'm pretty sure I've seen other things where a computerised inteligence is thwarted by asking it to calculate pi (which, as an irrationable number, has no end). --LegendaryBard 14:56, 11 December 2006 (CST)