Talk:The Raffle House

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It's over!!! --NoHassles 04:44, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I assume the prizes will be different each day, being randomly selected from a given set of possible firsr prizes and possible second prizes. But we'll see. --JRSiebz (☎|§|‡) 00:16, 13 June 2006 (CDT)

Things we need to find out about the tickets: is it drawn the old way, where having lots of tickets makes you more likely to be drawn second prize and miss the first prize? Also, it would be nice (but exhaustive) if we could get an archive of raffle prizes. Just ideas. --Shokwave 04:25, 13 June 2006 (CDT)

I've never heard of this "old way". The only way I can make sence of you comment is if in the old way, when you win second prize you are not allowed to win first prize with another ticket. If that's what you mean, it would be a good way to keep people from trying to corner the prize, but doesn't seem very fair. Of course, why would we expect fair from penguins? --Crowther 11:11, 13 June 2006 (CDT)

It looks like that's the way it will be. The phrase "one prize lot per winner" seems to indicate that if you win a second prize you can't also win a first prize or another second prize. --Dmagus 22:43, 13 June 2006 (CDT)

• "More likely to miss the first prize" is misleading. Although you keep getting more likely to get both prizes and miss first, this is counterbalanced by the fact you're far more likely to get first at all. In fact, your chances of getting the first prize (and not any other) keep increasing until you're buying a quarter of the available tickets, at which point your chances of getting it are about 10.5%. --DarkerLine 18:19, 6 March 2007 (CST)

It's a fix. take a look at devilbunnies' profile - they haven't logged on since the 13th, and yet they won the raffle of the 15th? --Catkiller 16:30, 15 June 2006 (CDT)

• Possibly because the ticket was bought before midnight on the 13th (right after rollover) and the raffle date may be determined by the date which corresponds to the majority of the day (i.e. though it was granted after rollover on the 14th, it was effectively the 15th for the rest of the day). Or something like that. --Quietust 16:55, 15 June 2006 (CDT)
• Ah. I assumed the date was dictated by rollover. IE, right now it's the 16th, and it will be the 16th untill 4:30am GMT on saturday. Sorry. --Catkiller 11:59, 16 June 2006 (CDT)
• I also noticed this pattern, on more than one occasion. As of today(03/07/07) The 1st prize winner (X_88 (#1204627))appeared as such:

Account Created:January 03, 2007 Last Login:March 07, 2007

--dartharch 10:17, 07 March 2007 (CST)

Re: prizes arriving in boxes: Shouldn't have anything to do with preventing prizes from being stolen in PvP; all of the prizes are no-sell/no-discard, and thus couldn't be stolen anyway. See Strangerer's PvP guide.--Salien 16:08, 13 February 2007 (CST)

• Presumably, this aspect changed since the era of the Penguin Mafia (where the 0th prize winner of the 5th raffle had his Crimbo pants stolen via PvP). --Quietust (t|c) 16:17, 13 February 2007 (CST)

Formatting

According to the radio, the Raffle House will be here for quite some time (Riff said that we can consider it "permanent"), and we can expect to see a limited set of prizes. Can this page be reformatted so that, rather than hoping for someone to update "Today's Raffle Prize" every day, it just lists all known prizes, as done on the Bounty hunter hunter's page, but with icons? Along the same vein, if we display the icons for all prizes under "Today's Raffle Prize," can we remove the icons from the "Past Raffle Prizes" section, since that section will be growing indefinitely? --duffield 19:57, 21 June 2006 (CDT)

• It was only meant to be updated everyday temporarily until we saw the whole prize set. --JRSiebz (☎|§|‡) 21:37, 21 June 2006 (CDT)

Relative to Uncle P's Antiques

I don't know if this bears consideration, but since nobody seems to have mentionned it in the wiki: Does anybody think that the similarity between the two Penguin-controlled businesses in town (relative location and external appearance) deserves mention anywhere?
--Mister Shiggedy 02:18, 3 July 2006 (CDT)

Cost of a prize

I'd like to know the number of tickets people have had to buy to win, beacuse I'm curious.

Holler 20:32, 8 July 2006 (CDT)

I'd also like to know. It would be useful in determining how the prizes are being drawn. --Anmbia 11:02, 19 July 2006 (CDT)

I took out 130 tickets using meat in storage everyday for the full time including after i won first prize. the talk about valhalla is that most of the big repeated winners take out well over 2000 tickets a day. hope that is helpful. I have been called one lucky (radio edit) by several people ~~LoA

Just how many people are trying to win these prizes, because yesterday, only two prizes were awarded: one First, and one Second. --Ymiherer 17:12, 1 October 2006 (EDT)

I was wondering if the Raffle is a raffle, meaning that someone will always win and that your chance of winning a prize is based on number of entires meaning that if no one else enter beyond you would you win instantly. Or is it a form of Lottery where some isn't always going to win and that the proablity of you winning is based on a fixed rate and if not enough people enter than there is a chance everyone loses. I think its a Raffle. --Cloakblade 18:25, 28 November 2007 (CST)

Meatsink

I'd like to point out that the Raffle is probably a meatsink, and a rather good one. After all, it permits arbitrary amounts of meat to be pushed into the contest, but still only rewards a single prize. This means rich players are literally pushing their money down one-way pipes against each other here to win (well... the rich players who choose to participate, of course). It's sort of like clan warfare, except with stuff to wear or put in your display case. --Nifty Nobu 14:30, 28 November 2006 (CST)

• That's obvious enough - it's as much of a meatsink as the original Penguin Mafia raffles, if not moreso (since it runs every day, rather than only 5 times). --Quietust (t|c) 14:34, 28 November 2006 (CST)

Reference: Surely this is also a reference to the Innumerable Waffle Houses that spring up all over the place?--KidOblivious 11:49, 1 December 2006 (CST)

New Prizes

Today the raffle house reads:

Greetings, Adventurer, and welcome to our Raffle House, which is completely and totally legitimate and fully-licensed by the Council of Loathing.

Here's how it works: you buy some raffle tickets, and every day (at rollover) we'll draw one to see who wins our Fabulous Prize, which will be delivered to you in one of our special packages. Tickets are non-transferrable, but we will accept tickets from Hagnk's if you should ascend before the drawing.

All proceeds will be donated to an unspecified but very worthy charity of our choosing.

We have recently acquired a large number of rare and valuable items as a result of an unfortunate accident which befell some wealthy citizens of Loathing. This could be your big chance, Adventurer, to own a piece of history.

So, how many tickets do you want?

Today's Raffle Prize:

First prize: pressielarva Crimbo P. R. E. S. S. I. E.

Second prize: petrified time

53 first prize lots are available and 10 second prize lots are available. One prize lot per winner. All ticket sales are final.--Bongo Extreme 22:56, 8 January 2008 (CST)

• Seems the Dev Team has decided on a convenient way to deal with accounts full of rare and valuable items (likely purchased with bugmeat) when they get disabled... --Quietust (t|c) 23:15, 8 January 2008 (CST)
• does this have anything to do with the recent 'bugmeat', and Princess1's banning?--TehChozenOne 03:07, 9 January 2008 (CST)

• Looks like the first prize is the IOTM going backwards. These raffles should be around for a while.--GoldS 01:03, 12 January 2008 (CST)
• OH my god, I so need to win. I just hope this is done whenever a wealthy player is banned.--Yourkie1921 11:36, 12 January 2008 (CST)
  • I think it has been said that this only happened because the recent exploiters made tons of bugmeat and bought alot of these rare items, causing the economy to screw up. (I think in fact the exploiters bought of all the existing hand turkeys in the mall causing outrage). Jick wants to return them into the rare items into the market because these items were bought with bugmeat. Probably Jick wouldnt care if you bought all the items in the mall as long as you are buying it with legal(unbug?) meat. So i dont think we can expect this to happen again if just an ordinary wealthy player has been banned.

This raffle will also be killing two birds in one stone, since the exploiters actually gave meat away (which was bugmeat, and they gave tons) this raffle not only returns the rare items to the market but drains further bug meat from the game.--TehChozenOne 22:41, 19 January 2008 (CST)

Actually, why were the predictions for the upcoming raffle prizes deleted? The guy who put them up was right so far (with a sample size of 1). --Mr Crac 11:52, 31 January 2008 (CST)

They're actually not deleted, but commented out. Not entirely sure why, you'd have to hear from JR about that. Presumably he deemed it an inappropriate thing to be speculating about on the main page, instead of the talk page. --Flargen 23:45, 31 January 2008 (CST)

Who came up with the predictions? What are the predictions based on?--TehChozenOne 01:45, 2 February 2008 (CST)

Baios

• It's starting to look like Talismen of Baio are becoming regular 2nd prize offerings, with 5 each time. The last entry in the special raffles under History appears to be the first instance of this (with the special text for the special raffles not having been removed). Baios are being offered again today (and the raffle house text is back to normal). Think maybe Jick just forgot to change part of the raffle house's code, or is this a long term thing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flargen (talk • contribs) on 20:05, 21 February 2008
  • That seems quite odd too me that Jick would make Baios a recurring prize. It seems much more likely that he forgot to turn off the special rewards, either that or there were a couple extra batches of Baios to give out. In either case, I really doubt that they will remain a regular offering. --CheezyBob 00:48, 22 February 2008 (CST)

Reopening

Raffle house is back in business. Raffling off first prize of a mutant cactus familiar (must be related to the mutant saguaro) and second prize of plans to build a hammer out of depleted grimacite. The depleted Grimacite hammer will allow you to do some depleted grimacite smithing. So it looks like past depleted Grimacite raffle prizes may be able to be smithed. And hopefully the Grim Grimacite Site will be opened up again for adventuring so we can grab some more depleted Grimacite. --ElectricJello 06:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Should we note how many lots of each type of prize there are/has been? --Sparksol (t|c) 09:45, 7 November 2008 (UTC)