Talk:House
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Since it falls under the Quest Items in Miscellaneous section before being used, I wonder if it gets lost when you ascend if it isn't used?--Animus 03:24, 17 March 2006 (CST)
- I'm pretty sure it's treated the same way as any other quest item (thus gets lost). --NewZorkBat 03:36, 17 March 2006 (CST)
BM Values Different?
I seem to be regenerating +55 HP and MP in BM after rollover with a house, not the base ~40. My campground has a meat maid, the cook/tend boxes, and the arches. Is anyone else observing increased post-rollover values? --Bagatelle 16:12, 12 December 2007 (CST)
- OK, tried this again yesterday, with the moons at
prior to rollover, and
after. Before yesterday, I had no cooker/tender in my campground and noticed nothing untoward in the HP/MP rollover restore. Immediately after installing a cooker and tender after unimprisming the King yesterday, the rollover restore granted HP 676/948->731 (+55), MP 2/168->60 (+58). The last time I posted was a Moxie day, with moons before
and after
so it doesn't seem to be a Myst day issue. Additionally, there seems to be talk at Talk:Rollover confirming a cooker/tender bonus. So I'm gonna tag this. --Bagatelle 14:27, 2 January 2008 (CST)
Rollover Data
| Day
| Moons
Before
Rollover
| Moons
After
| Campground
Gear
| Expected
Rollover
HP
| Expected
Rollover
MP
| Total
Rollover
HP
| Total
Rollover
MP
|
| 2008-01-05
|
|
| barskin tent, meat maid, tender
| 18-20
| 20
| 11 (hit ceiling)
| 29 (hit ceiling)
|
| 2008-01-06
|
|
| barskin tent, meat maid, tender
| 18-20
| 20
| 35
| 35
|
| 2008-01-07
|
|
| barskin tent, meat maid, tender
| 18-20
| 20
| 35
| 35
|
| 2008-01-08
|
|
| barskin tent, meat maid, tender
| 18-20
| 20
| 35
| 35
|
| 2008-01-09
|
|
| barskin tent, meat maid, tender
| 18-20
| 20
| 35
| 35
|
| 2008-01-10
|
|
| house, meat maid, tender
| 38-40
| 40
| 55
| 55
|
| 2008-01-11
|
|
| house, meat maid, tender, chef
| 38-40
| 40
| 55
| 55
|
| 2008-01-12
|
|
| house, meat maid, tender, chef
| 38-40
| 40
| 55
| 55
|
| 2008-01-13
|
|
| house, meat maid, tender, chef
| 38-40
| 40
| 55
| 55
|
| 2008-01-14
|
|
| house, meat maid, tender, chef
| 38-40
| 40
| 55
| 55
|
| 2008-01-15
|
|
| house, meat maid, tender, chef
| 38-40
| 40
| 55
| 55
|
With the above showing no moon variation, I feel comfortable enough to drop the graphics, which are a pain to code. Another run's worth of data:
| Day
| Campground
Gear
| Expected
Rollover
HP
| Expected
Rollover
MP
| Total
Rollover
HP
| Total
Rollover
MP
|
| 2008-01-20
| barskin tent, evil golden arches
| 18-20
| 20
| 17 (hit ceiling)
| 20 (hit ceiling)
|
| 2008-01-21 & 22
| barskin tent, evil golden arches
| 18-20
| 20
| 20
| 20
|
2008-01-23 through 29
(except for 25--forgot to keep track)
| house, evil golden arches
| 38-40
| 40
| 40
| 40
|
Interestingly, not ever observing any "8"s in the previous two runs. Also interestingly, not ever observing the extra +3 MP from my post on "14:27, 2 January 2008". --Bagatelle 22:10, 30 January 2008 (CST)
| Days
| Campground
Gear
| Expected
Rollover
HP
| Expected
Rollover
MP
| Total
Rollover
HP
| Total
Rollover
MP
|
| 1
| Newbiesport
| 8-10
| 10
| 10
| 10
|
| 1
| Barskin
| 18-20
| 20
| 20
| 20
|
| 1
| Barskin + arches
| 18-20
| 20
| 20
| 20
|
| 2
| Cottage + arches
| 28-30
| 30
| 30
| 30
|
| 4
| House + arches
| 38-40
| 40
| 40
| 40
|
| 1
| House + arches + chef
| 38-40
| 40
| 40
| 40
|
| 1
| Barskin
| 18-20
| 20
| 20
| 20
|
| 1
| Cottage + maid + fountain
| 28-30
| 30
| 30
| 30
|
| 2
| Cottage + maid + fountain + chef + tender
| 28-30
| 30
| 45
| 45
|
| 2
| House + maid + fountain + chef + tender
| 38-40
| 40
| 55
| 55
|
| 3
| Barskin
| 18-20
| 20
| 20
| 20
|
| 1
| Barskin + tender
| 18-20
| 20
| 33 (hit cap)
| 35
|
| 4
| House + tender
| 38-40
| 40
| 55
| 55
|
| 2
| Newbiesport
| 8-10
| 10
| 10
| 10
|
| 1
| Barskin + fountain
| 18-20
| 20
| 20
| 20
|
| 1
| Barskin + fountain + chef
| 18-20
| 20
| 20
| 20
|
| 3
| House + fountain + chef
| 38-40
| 40
| 40
| 40
|
| 1
| House + fountain + chef + tender
| 38-40
| 40
| 55
| 55
|
| 1
| Newbiesport
| 8-10
| 10
| 10
| 10
|
| 1
| Newbiesport + chef
| 8-10
| 10
| 10
| 10
|
| 2
| Barskin + chef
| 18-20
| 20
| 20
| 20
|
| 3
| House + chef
| 38-40
| 40
| 40
| 40
|
I'm going to assume my +3 MP post from "14:27, 2 January 2008" is erroneous record-keeping. Then, it looks like it's the tender doing +15 HP/MP, and the chef does zilch. Oddly enough, through all those data points, I've never observed a less-than-max resting value, even though the relevant articles all say the rollover HP amount should be equal to the base (random, with range of 2) housing resting amount. --Bagatelle 16:25, 21 March 2008 (CDT)
New message?
I could swear I never got this message before.
[1] (Picture)
Is this a hardcore-only thing or what?
[2]
The following picture.
--Rabidzora 13:02, 2 February 2008 (CST)
- No, Jick and Co. just made changes to how the housing system works. Possibly a portent that there will be housing that doesn't fit the current hierarchical progression, like a house that gives 70 HP and 20 MP. Or not. Maybe Jick just wanted to give us a way of burning some stuff to the ground. --Flargen 13:18, 2 February 2008 (CST)
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