Talk:Dependence Day

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Article references the phrase "viva la revolucion". Since his first name is Frank, I think there should also be the reference that Frank Vivala == Viva La France. --Jeetsta 14:54, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

trophies associatable? going to try blowing off fingers with knob cracker, useing one of every fire work in one day, dumping herrbal tea, etc.. --Co678 00:05, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Can't use all three in one day --Co678 00:12, 7 June 2007 (CDT) Knob firecrackers = nothing. not even fingers :( Hippy tea drinking = nothing also

  • Isn't it a little odd that the message says to "Go get some fireworks at the Market" when you can only use one?--Chuckles1 09:06, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
  • Nah, you are supposed to buy thousands and then stick them in your mall store to MAKE MEAT FAST! tomorrow when these become "rares". Of course, since everyone will do it it won't work and will become a meat sink. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 13:22, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Is it too much speculation to have anything here about the Hermit possibly being Frank? I'm thinking we should hold off until there's some sort of confirmation from either the head honchos or an in-game source. --Al Khowarizmi 00:27, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Personally, I think it probably is making a reference to the Hermit, but I don't think the information will ever actually be used for something. --Raisins 08:49, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Is anyone ascending today? Can you use another firework if you ascend? --JRSiebz (|§|) 00:30, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

stacking the effects

i have a character that uses zero turns. i will see if the effects stack after multiple dependance days.

-billabong--Billabong 09:11, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Using after ascending confirmed

I was set up to ascend today, so I used an M-242, jumped through the gash, and was able to use another M-242. --JimmyHendrix 10:21, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

July 4 = Bor 4?

Any opinions on whether or not the next Dependence Day will be on July 4? --Dornbeast 10:27, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

  • The KoL calendar is twelve months of eight days each. Ninety-six days from now is September Eleventh. I don't think July 4th will be a Dependence Day. And while the references currently state "KoL's D-Day would have normally been released Tuesday, June 5th, but was delayed to June 6th for unknown reasons." I think the reason was Bor 4 is supposed to be analogous to July 4, and doing it on Bor 3 would be wrong. --Club (#66669) (Talk) 13:36, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
    • But doesn't KoL celebrate real holidays on their real days even if it's not the right KoL day? Like St. Sneaky Pete's and Halloween? --Logiedan 16:03, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
      • I agree with this theory. Every other holiday, aside from Crimbo, triggers on it's analogous real-life holiday. That's the only way we've been able to have the cross-over holidays this year anyways. --Shoptroll 10:12, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
      • Yeah. I'm almost assured this will happen on real-life July 4th, so I'm gonna go ahead and change that.--Applejordan 15:24, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
      • FYI - no Dependence Day on July 4, 2007, and the fireworks sold on this holiday are non-functional...--Grimdel 06:53, 4 July 2007 (CDT)

Alternate theory: it might repeat also / instead on November 5. Anyone seen the movie "V" ...? Remember, remember, the fifth of November, and all that.--Bork 21:29, 8 June 2007 (CDT)

Personally, I doubt the movie will affect the date much and it'll mostly stick to the KoL calander. I am wondering if Depedence Day 5 (V) will be something special though...--Konoko 17:02, 12 January 2008 (CST)


  • d-day reference is fine and stays in. --Evilkolbot 13:44, 8 June 2007 (CDT)


  • The dependence day, as we all know, is based on Independence day.

Is it worth stating that, Ironicly, Dependence day landed on September 11? A joyous American occasion ripoff on one that saddens American people? --El taco 04:40, 26 September 2007 (CDT)


  • Has it occured to anyone that the Vivala might be the Hermit in the mountains? It's just a thought. --RegalStar 14:43, 25 October 2007 (CDT)


"Vivala, it is widely believed, was jealous because King Ralph was more handsome than he was Vivala may have also been suffering some sort of degenerative mental disease brought on by sexual promiscuity. Went to go live a solitary life in the mountains."

Icedemon 06:14, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

  • Given that Frank Vivala is one of the famous dead guys to play cards with Beyond the Pale, no, the hermit is not frank vivala. Monsieur 23:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


Used a m-242 with the mask equipped. No goofy message. Which is odd, meybe an oversight. Gront 01:45, 16 December 2007 (CST)

April Fools Day 2009

For a short while on April Fools Day 2009, the effects were stackable, and you could, in fact, use as many fireworks as you wanted. I still have 10,000 some odd turns on +moxie. --James111222 11:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

2 D-Days in Year 25?

The calendar currently says that there were two Dependence Days in Year 25. I'm not an expert with the game yet, but is that correct?

Dependence Day XII: July 14, 2009 (Bor 4, Year 25) Dependence Day XIII: October 18, 2009 (Bor 4, Year 25) icefall5 20:29, 22 January 2010 (UTC)