Talk:Combat Initiative
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The little round pebble needs to be added to the list. --Hoboapple 12:56, 1 September 2008 (CDT)
This article is missing one very important thing-- an explanation of what initiative actually does. I can extrapolate from the first section, but shouldn't the purpose of initiative be the very first thing in the article? Kantania 19:49, 25 January 2007 (CST)
I believe the current formula is correct (or very close). Hence, it's probably time to start testing it on other monsters. If anyone wants to help, check the linked thread on the HCO forums.
what about the toy jetpack?--Warjunkie 09:11, 22 December 2006 (CST)
what about the hors d'oeuvre tray?--Bostonvaulter 19:53, 12 January 2007 (CST)
I've updated several items in this list. Here is an explanation of how I came to these conclusions. Cheers! —Dentarthurdent(T,C) 03:05, 2 March 2007 (CST)
Erm... The links to the hardcoreoxygenation place don't work. Have they moved or gone kaput? And is there somewhere else that monster init values might be found? --LegendaryBard 01:14, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
- They popped up on a new domain name after a recent outage. I have updated the above link. --Jonrock 01:51, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
Three-handed
Is there an initiave penalty for any other three-handed weapon (e.g. ridiculously huge sword)?
--Volante 11:21, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
I think the three-handed weapon would say so if it did. It looks to me that combat initiative is straight forward when it comes to items. I mean, every item that has an initiative modifier says so explicitly. -Holler 12:11, 17 August 2006 (CDT)
Cunctatitis
According to the Cunctatitis page, the effect remvoes ALL combat intiative, not just 100%. A player with 260% combat initiative had dire bunnies get the jump out of him 9 out of 9 times, and failed all 30 run away attempts for each of these nine times.--Wildfire393 19:51, 20 April 2007 (CDT)
Is this really understood?
"The detailed mechanics of Combat Initiative are only now becoming fully understood."
If this is really understood, will someone please write an undertandable summary of what this does?
If not, could we reword this to, "The detailed mechanics of Combat Initiative are not fully understood." Swampthings 16:52, 24 January 2008 (CST)
Running/Jumping Discrepancy
The initiative values Larryboy's been getting have been consistently 5 lower than the listed values. I recall something like this coming up a while back with beanbats and fluffy bunnies. Could there be an extra +/- 5 somewhere in the equation that hasn't been noticed before? --TechSmurf 21:45, 12 August 2008 (CDT)
- Are you using the HCO guide as a base? I don't know if it's been updated since NS13. I think the ±5 difference you're mentioning was noted at User talk:Foggy#Initiative Spading. At first glance, the method Larryboy's using seems OK against what's known about Run Away, assuming he's doing a lot of reps. But maybe we should be more aggressive leaving such work to the spading clans. --Bagatelle 22:31, 12 August 2008 (CDT)
- I'm using nothing as a base except my infrequent glancing at the recent changes page these past few days-- I kept nothing the values he had were off by 5. --TechSmurf 22:32, 12 August 2008 (CDT)
- I did some of my own testing on bunnies during NS13. They seem to have a 45% chance of getting the jump on a player when checking getting the jump directly, while foggy's "running away" testing showed they have an initiative of 50%. Personally, I don't think this theory has been finished.-QuantumNightmare 00:27, 13 August 2008 (CDT)
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