# Talk:Bowl of lucky charms

Is the table needed?-Carados 19:06, 8 Jul 2005 (Central Daylight Time)

Actually, I tried three times to get a hatchling, and the one time i had two tenleaf clovers in my inventory i didn't get a hatchling but the other two times i did get a hatchling each time with out a ten leaf clover.--Eidlyn 14:49, 1 March 2007 (CST)

• Don't make such speculation on the article page until you've performed statistically significant tests (i.e. at least one hundred each way). --Quietust (t|c) 14:56, 1 March 2007 (CST)

It wouldn't be speculation if i tested it, would it?--Eidlyn 15:48, 1 March 2007 (CST)

• "It probably actually reduces the chance of getting a hatchling." sounds like speculation to me. --Quietust (t|c) 16:34, 1 March 2007 (CST)

## hatchling rate

I've eaten 20 so far without clovers, and got 10 hatchlings. By tomorrow I'll eat another 10 without, and 30 with. If I've got my statistics right, if the difference is 4 or less between with and without clovers, then that would give a confidence of 95% that clovers make no difference. It'll also give enough data to make a rough stab at a hatchling rate. --EEpiccolo 20:46, 16 September 2007 (CDT)

OK, 16 out of 30 without a clover, 15 out of 30 with a clover. If there is a difference in rate, it is probably very small, and would require 100s, if not 1000s of samples to detect. I suspect there is no difference though, and we should assume that unless someone can show otherwise. By the way, the data shows the rate to be 51.7%, with a 16.7% margin of error at the 99% confidence level. It's easy to assume a straight 50% rate from the data, though not statistically sound. --EEpiccolo 12:18, 17 September 2007 (CDT)