Talk:Best Drinks

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Somebody who knows better than I ought to add the new Dia de Los Muertos Borrachios drinks to this table, they are actually very good. --Frummidge 20:17, 28 November 2007 (CST)

I made some assumptions, that the four drinks for each type (level 5 & higher / no requirements) all have the same gains. I took the highest numbers for each group, based upon the spading that has been done so far. Feel free to update it as you all see fit. Also, i've never edited this page, so i didn't know what the row colors represent. --Duke33 11:16, 29 November 2007 (CST)

These drinks are listed way too high on the table, the 6 drunk ones look to be more 21 or 22 advs, and the 3 drunk ones are well under an average of 3 adv/drunk. Possibly 2.66, just going by the information on their respective pages.--alacrity 04:53, 30 November 2007 (CST)

• From the announcement of 2006 May 14th: "There have been some changes made to the way booze works. First-generation mixed drinks (base booze + base fruit) have had their quality improved quite a bit, such that it is no longer possible to end up with a net loss of adventures from cocktailcrafting two things." This needs to be incorporated. Do we have data on what drinks were changed, and by how much? --DirkDiggler 18:39, 16 May 2006 (CDT)

• I think "Tier" is a poor decription of the first columb... "type" would probly be more descriptive. Also, N/A in this columb should probly be replaced with "Misc." or something similar.

Is there a corresponding page like this for food? If there is, I can't seem to find it. If not, there should be. --sl1me 20:14, 20 May 2006 (CDT)

• Not that I know of, thanks for volunteering yourself, haha ;-) --JRSiebz (☎|§|‡) 22:32, 20 May 2006 (CDT)
  • After I finished the food section in the Farming Strategy page I might merge and morph it over to make this one...or you could always make it yourself and I will steal the data for the farming page =).....in fact, I like that idea better.--SomeStranger (Talk | Contribs) 22:35, 20 May 2006 (CDT)

• Missing from this list are vodka and cranberry and redrum during the Feast of Boris. If the numbers on the vodka and cranberry page are correct then the Adv/Drunk would be 2.667 and the Stat/Drunk would be 7.667. The redrum's Adv/Drunk would be 2.1667 and the Stat/Drunk would be 7.5. So should this be added to its own sections on the charts? Also how about the roll in the hay (as per the note in the Feast of Boris article)? --Fryguy9 16:07, 23 June 2006 (CDT)

• I have to add, the numbers on this page are contradictory to those found in the actual pages. Example, in the chart "Best Drinks for Stat Gains" the Margarita and its ilk are listed as having 4.5 stat gain for 3 adventures, total of 1.5 stats per adventure. But those drinks yield 8-10 stat gain according to both Subjunctive and this site's own page on the drink. Should there perhaps be a template (similar to that used for the plurals) that includes adventures gained, stats gained (for each stat), and drunkenness, and then the appropriate pages reference those values, or would that put strain on the Wiki? --Gedrean 22:45, 25 July 2006 (CDT)

Well, that type of stuff would really slow down the wiki, but I thought of an idea with the following a while back:

• Template:Itempage → (subclusion of subpages, stat gains, enchantments, plurals, references, etc, creating headings thru Template:Itempage/head)
• Template:Itempage/head → <div class="editsection plainlinks" style="float:right; margin-left:5px;" id="{{{1}}}"><nowiki>[</nowiki>[{{fullurle:{{PAGENAME}}/{{{1}}}|action=edit}} <span title="Edit {{{1}}}">edit</span>]]</div><div style="border-bottom:1px dotted #888685; font-family:Verdana, serif; font-size:1.5em; font-weight:normal; margin:0.6em 0 0 0; padding:0 0 1px 0;">{{{1}}}</div>

This way, things like rearranging item sections or adding new sections along with adjusting the format to whole batches of item pages would only take one change to Template:Itempage, as opposed to work involved in say adding a useitem template or any new template/formatting tweaks. Again, this might create some performance issues...an easier alternative could be appending <includeonly>{{switch:{{{1}}}|...}}</includeonly> so we could get item information through something like {{:Lime|autosell}}--Dehstil (t|c) 23:15, 25 July 2006 (CDT)

• The Best Drinks for Stat Gains section is missing the information for spiced rum (it's included in the Best Drinks for Adventures section, though). According to spiced rum's page, you get an average of 23 moxie points per drink, for a 7.6 stat/drunk ratio. Since this will add a full new row to the table, and require recoloring the sections below it, I wanted to post here before making any changes, in case I was missing something.

Teawaste 21:21, 4 September 2006 (CDT)

Corpse Island iced teas.--Relyk 22:47, 27 November 2007 (CST)

• What about shot of blackberry schnapps and dusty bottles? Where are the stat gains from them?--Muhandes 08:34, 27 January 2008 (CST)

re: Bungle in the Jungle

This new drink needs to be added to best drinks by stat gain... seems like a really high stat beverage, too. ~Marksreturn

NS13: level requirement

What do you think of adding lavel requirements to the table? Should we do it? If yes, where to put the extra column? To the far right? Of course, having posted this kind of makes me a volunteer ;) --Worthstream 03:20, 5 July 2007 (CDT)

And I wouldn't mind the ability to sort, or have it sorted already, for best drinks by level. That way, I know the best stuff I can send to my low-level friend that just started. I goofed once by getting a friend to buy the chicken wings (the frat ones) before they were lvl 10, forgot about the requirement there... --Jimfromtx 01:13, 29 April 2008 (CDT)

Level requirements would definitely be helpful. Make it consistent with Best Foods page, and add sortability?--Iratecat 16:14, 23 August 2008 (CDT)

ode effects

can we add the effects of ode of booze. it will help in deciding drinks, arrangement should still be of the current boozeless ratings tho..--Myst44 04:11, 30 August 2007 (CDT)

If ode effects are just proportional to the levels already there then I see no point. It will just become cluttered as people decide to add columns for every effect. --Psylem 10:15, 4 September 2007 (CDT)

Nightcaps section?

I thought it might be good to have a section/page for the best nightcap drinks. It isn't obvious, glancing at the table, which ones will be best. I tried to pull together all the ones which might make reasonable choices in some circumstance, and compiled the table below:

Any thoughts on if this is worth doing? --Starwed 06:07, 1 January 2008 (CST)

The only thing I like banging more than the consistency drum is the "no duplication drum," and this seems like something that could be remedied by just collapsing the rowspans so that sorttable doesn't break, and then ordering by the adventures column. On a related note, someone went and made a Bad Moon Best Foods (Adventures) table; perhaps something similar should be done for drinks? A couple of people noted on its talk page that maybe the current colour scheme (which doesn't do anything except distinguish groupings with different consecutive values) could be used instead to indicate ease-of-availability. --Bagatelle 19:55, 1 January 2008 (CST)

Collapsing the rowspans might obscure some of the info in the current table, though. --Starwed

Er, not sure I'm following. I don't think collapsing would lose any information. The default order of the table would be as it is on the article currently; I'm merely suggesting we get ride of the rowspans, and input the adventures per drunk for every row so that sorting will work, and nightcaps can be done with the click of a button --Bagatelle 14:11, 2 January 2008 (CST):

Tier	Items	Level	Adv	Drunk	Adv/Drunk
Penguin Mafia wines	Acqua Del Piatto Merlot, Acque Luride Grezze Cabernet, Ferita Del Petto Zinfandel, Maiali Sifilitici Pinot Noir, Spasmi Dolorosi Del Rene Champagne, Uovo Marcio Shiraz	10	8	1	8.0
Raffle House prize	Grimacite Bock	8	8	1	8.0
Semi-Rare Adventures	thermos full of Knob chicory	-	6.5?	1	6.5?

I didn't mean that it would delete info, but that it might make it harder to read the table. Let's see what others think, I guess. --Starwed 04:31, 3 January 2008 (CST)

• given that it would be duplicating info, i'd say no to a separate table. splitting out the rowspans would make it slightly less clear, but the usefulness of being able to sort the table would outweigh this enough to compensate. i say, yes sorting. --Evilkolbot 06:23, 3 January 2008 (CST)

Would it be worth adding in the 20-nickel hobo drinks to the table? They are a once-per-ascension item, but still averaging 8-12 turns/drunkness.--Sarghi 13:31, 20 September 2008 (UTC)